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Liz Cheney for President? Straw Poll
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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 77427628" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>Liz Cheney (while I have nothing against her personally, and think she'd probably be a better fit than either of the two options we're likely to end up getting) is the kind of "lesser of two evils" people who would likely give people on either side "Buyer's remorse" or a certain measure of discontent after reality set in.</p><p></p><p>And no matter which side/angle you approach it from, she'd be a less effective and/or consequential leader than DeSantis or Newsom.</p><p></p><p>There's a certain fondness progressives and never-Trump republicans have for her due to her being one of the few in the GOP who stood up to him on his election shenanigans (and she should be commended for that), but she's also the person who has these policy positions:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Liz_Cheney.htm[/URL]</p><p></p><p>To my liberal friends here on CF: If you're pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro marijuana reform, and for addressing climate change, she's not your ally.</p><p></p><p>To my conservative friends here on CF: </p><p></p><p>If you're as against "endless wars" and want a more "America First, let's not get involved in foreign entanglements" candidate, she's not your ally. Much like her dad (and Lindsey Graham), she never met a potential war she didn't like.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Like I've warned conservatives...I'll issue a similar (but inverse) warning to liberals....</p><p></p><p>With regards to either standing with (or standing against) Trump... neither position, in and of themselves, is a leadership credential.</p><p></p><p>I know idiots on both the pro-Trump and anti-Trump sides who I wouldn't trust with the task of watering my plants on vacation much less leading a country.</p><p></p><p>People need to stop looking at "all things political" through a Trump-centric lens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 77427628, member: 123415"] Liz Cheney (while I have nothing against her personally, and think she'd probably be a better fit than either of the two options we're likely to end up getting) is the kind of "lesser of two evils" people who would likely give people on either side "Buyer's remorse" or a certain measure of discontent after reality set in. And no matter which side/angle you approach it from, she'd be a less effective and/or consequential leader than DeSantis or Newsom. There's a certain fondness progressives and never-Trump republicans have for her due to her being one of the few in the GOP who stood up to him on his election shenanigans (and she should be commended for that), but she's also the person who has these policy positions: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Liz_Cheney.htm[/URL] To my liberal friends here on CF: If you're pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro marijuana reform, and for addressing climate change, she's not your ally. To my conservative friends here on CF: If you're as against "endless wars" and want a more "America First, let's not get involved in foreign entanglements" candidate, she's not your ally. Much like her dad (and Lindsey Graham), she never met a potential war she didn't like. Like I've warned conservatives...I'll issue a similar (but inverse) warning to liberals.... With regards to either standing with (or standing against) Trump... neither position, in and of themselves, is a leadership credential. I know idiots on both the pro-Trump and anti-Trump sides who I wouldn't trust with the task of watering my plants on vacation much less leading a country. People need to stop looking at "all things political" through a Trump-centric lens. [/QUOTE]
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