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Live vs. Dead scripture

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Svigor said:
I'd like to hear about how Christians (individuals and organizations) handle "live" vs. "dead" scripture.

E.g., obviously no one much cares about "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" anymore. There are myriad such passages that aren't a part of Christian practice yet are a part of Christian scripture.

How does this work?
My understanding is that most "dead" scripture is O.T., and therefore is superceded by grace and love.
Don't kill the witches; share the gospel with them to the point of getting them saved.
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Svigor said:
I'd like to hear about how Christians (individuals and organizations) handle "live" vs. "dead" scripture.

E.g., obviously no one much cares about "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" anymore. There are myriad such passages that aren't a part of Christian practice yet are a part of Christian scripture.

How does this work?

No scripture is 'dead'....it all is good and needed, but w/ the law books, such as Leviticus-Deuteronomy, we simply don't literally do those things...that doesn't mean it isn't important. Even in the NT, it's stated by Paul that the OT is a school teacher and full of examples.
 
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No scripture is 'dead'....it all is good and needed, but w/ the law books, such as Leviticus-Deuteronomy, we simply don't literally do those things...that doesn't mean it isn't important. Even in the NT, it's stated by Paul that the OT is a school teacher and full of examples.
"Dead" may have been a poor word choice, but clearly there are myriad OT strictures that are no longer obeyed; that's what I meant by dead. JC said not a jot or a tittle of the old law would be changed.

Now, "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" may leave room for interpretation (even though its intent is perfectly clear - that witches are to be put to death), but there are doubtless many rules in the OT that don't.
 
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Svigor said:
"Dead" may have been a poor word choice, but clearly there are myriad OT strictures that are no longer obeyed; that's what I meant by dead. JC said not a jot or a tittle of the old law would be changed.

Now, "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" may leave room for interpretation (even though its intent is perfectly clear - that witches are to be put to death), but there are doubtless many rules in the OT that don't.
No , that isnt what He said . He said it wouldnt pass away till all be fulfilled, He never said anything wouldnt change.
The law was given for the knowledge of sin , if we had no knowledge of what Gods laws are , how would we know we had broken any or how would we know we needed a savior?

Romans 3: 19. Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20. Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21. But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
22. even the righteousness of God which is through faith in Jesus Christ to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;
23. for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24. being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
25. whom God set forth to be a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,
26. to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
27. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.
28. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

Matthew 5:18. "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
 
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I stumped as to why Jesus said that not a jot or tittle would be removed, as he did, actually contradict the law several times. The most obvious was "Moses told you you could divorce because your hearts were hard, but I tell you this..."

That quote, I think, sums up why I don't follow much of the Old testament law. The legalistic "don't shave or wear mixed fabrics" types of laws were given to a culture that needed strict legalism in order to show their loyalty. The New Testament places much more emphasis on the individual, on intention, thoughts, humility and mercy. "Eye for an eye" taught justice to a culture marked by chaos and excessive violence, while "Pray for your enemies" taught mercy and love to a culture too wrapped up in legalism.

Both laws were given by God; it's not like the OT writers were just mistaken. But they were given for different reasons. In our current world, we have little need for the first command anymore. Jesus recognized this when he built on it.

Basically, it comes down to you have to crawl before you can walk, and once you know how to walk, crawling around is pretty silly.
 
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Paul contradicts Christ here (since Christ says not one bit of the law will be removed), and I think Christ takes precedence. Really, I sometimes wonder how Paul got into the NT at all.

Yeah, all that stuff about love in 1 Corinthians 13 is pretty nasty, huh?
 
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