Linux anyone?

[somedude]

I know exactly what you mean about Windows' incompatibility will older software. It's Microsoft's way of making extra money. For this reason (along with hundreds of others) I favor Windows 98SE and DOS above all the others and I have both on seperate computers.

Microsoft can't sell an Operating System that fails to work with what customers already have. I would like to see a list of which programs you used back when it came out that Windows XP was incompatible with. I can only think of two, and they were emulators. I would be surprised to see more than 1 legitimate program. It is not about money, it's about viability. WIll you delay a launch of an Operating System and use Millions of dollars in R&D just to make sure that it works with EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT IN THE ENTIRE WORLD?!!!!

Let alone that internet explorer is a security hazard (I have it blocked by my firewall). Also in a windows system after 95 there is no way of removing it from explorer (just go into my computer and change the adress to "about:blank")

All Networked activity is a security hazard.

 

[kopilo]

All Networked activity is a security hazard.

true, any activity invoving file transfer between storage devices, involving more then one person can be a security hazard.

However I have clocked how long it takes for a virus to appear to try and enter my system when using internet explorer, 32.76 seconds, firefox about 1 a month. (same url)

Also comparing blocked pop ups between IE and Firefox, IE has way more popups. (issue with this is that automatically allowed popups also means that data can be transfered automatical such as the form of a trojan virus).

if you want some articals about IE security, see here: http://browsehappy.com/why/

 

[Mikesoft]

Dyslexia and progaming really don't mix to well

Yeah they do! I can program very well when I put my mind to it.

 

[kopilo]

Yeah they do! I can program very well when I put my mind to it.

In fact sometimes their abstract thought patterns and creativity can be used to overcome many obsticals.

 

[PrawnJuice]

Let alone that internet explorer is a security hazard (I have it blocked by my firewall). Also in a windows system after 95 there is no way of removing it from explorer (just go into my computer and change the adress to "about:blank")

Actually, there are programs that can remove IE from Windows. I got a free version of one that will remove IE from Win98 in a PC magazine. It's not worth it though, because it reverts everything to Win95's standards. No back, up etc buttons in windows, Win95 context menus. It's not worth it, unless you badly need the space.

Microsoft can't sell an Operating System that fails to work with what customers already have. I would like to see a list of which programs you used back when it came out that Windows XP was incompatible with. I can only think of two, and they were emulators. I would be surprised to see more than 1 legitimate program. It is not about money, it's about viability. WIll you delay a launch of an Operating System and use Millions of dollars in R&D just to make sure that it works with EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT IN THE ENTIRE WORLD?!!!!

I agree and disagree with you there. Micro$oft HAS millions of dollars to do it! Smaller companies won't be able to, but M$ can and should.

 

[kopilo]

Actually, there are programs that can remove IE from Windows. I got a free version of one that will remove IE from Win98 in a PC magazine. It's not worth it though, because it reverts everything to Win95's standards. No back, up etc buttons in windows, Win95 context menus. It's not worth it, unless you badly need the space.

All that program does is replace Win98 explorer shell with the Win95 explorer Shell, I found out how to do that freely online.

Also Macs had true 32 bit systems before microsoft and now they have decent 64 bit systems..

Microsoft uses it's billions of dollars, in fact Microsoft by law is split into more then one company using the Microsoft brand name, they do create some good products such as Access (not the latest but the version before), maybe not top of the range as oracle, but to the everyday person who could utilise an electronic database, Access is good.

 

[daveleau]

I've set up a few multipleboot systems, with one of the OSes being Linux. My favorites are Red Hat and Mandrake. I haven't messed around with it lately, though. I tried installing VMWare so I could run a Linux virtual system inside Windows, but I could only get my hands on a Beta version, and it reeked havoc with my WinXP laptop.

 

[kopilo]

I've set up a few multipleboot systems, with one of the OSes being Linux. My favorites are Red Hat and Mandrake. I haven't messed around with it lately, though. I tried installing VMWare so I could run a Linux virtual system inside Windows, but I could only get my hands on a Beta version, and it reeked havoc with my WinXP laptop.

VmWare like most virtual systems on all computers will use up every resource the computer has.

If you want to test out linux I suggest getting a live CD distribution from www.linux.org, if you can burn a cd and read cds whilst booting etc, or some even boot off pen drives, I think damn small linux currently has a dist. that can do that.

 

[daveleau]

How do you install programs on a live CD distro? Is that possible? I'm a software-trying-addict, and like to try out different applications.

 

[kopilo]

How do you install programs on a live CD distro? Is that possible? I'm a software-trying-addict, and like to try out different applications.

umm I'm not sure, I think the programs would have to the cd, most CD distors come with a heck of a lot of programs anyway.. I would suggest you have a look at Mepis.

It's good to havea curioscity about different programs, I have that myself, which my sister was not too happy with because every week there would be a new program on our computer LOL.

 

[PrawnJuice]

umm I'm not sure, I think the programs would have to the cd, most CD distors come with a heck of a lot of programs anyway.. I would suggest you have a look at Mepis.

It's good to havea curioscity about different programs, I have that myself, which my sister was not too happy with because every week there would be a new program on our computer LOL.

Most Linux distros you'll get off the net will be in .iso format, which can be read by burning software like Nero. You open the file with the burning software and it copies the files to the CD.


To make bootable flash drives and floppy disks you need to copy some of the boot files from a Windows boot floppy. I'm not sure how to do it, but I know there're a lot of guides on the web that'le tell you.

May the source be with you

 

[heffalump_hunter]

I have Suse 9.3 installed on an older box and I have Ubuntu installed on another.

 

[Silent Enigma]

How would you make Linux work on a Gamecube and what would you do with it?

 

[ontheside]

I beleive that Linux is a great server OS not quite suitible for the desktop enviroment.
All our linux servers run on CentOS or Fedora and CPanel. Our main purpose of linux servers are in Web serving however, we have a few file servers as well.

 

[PrawnJuice]

How would you make Linux work on a Gamecube and what would you do with it?

www.gc-linux.org

 

[wiggsfly]

I've tried a couple of distros on my laptop but had problems with the video until I tried openSuse. I wa a big linux fan back in the days of Redhat 3 and will probably try again when I don't need to have XP on my laptop anymore.

 

[DrunkMonkey]

I have tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu live CDs. I'd like to do a dual-boot Kubuntu/Windows XP, but I would have to figure out all the partitioning and such- I'll wait another year or so when my comp is older and I won't care so much when I screw it up. I would also have to try and figure out how to set up the internet connections. Complain about Windows all you want, but it is easier to set up.

 

[Qyöt27]

I have tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu live CDs. I'd like to do a dual-boot Kubuntu/Windows XP, but I would have to figure out all the partitioning and such- I'll wait another year or so when my comp is older and I won't care so much when I screw it up. I would also have to try and figure out how to set up the internet connections. Complain about Windows all you want, but it is easier to set up.

Actually, you don't really have to mess with the partitioning, as the Install CDs have a utility that does it for you. You only have to remember that when it asks you for the 'size of the partition' during the setup, that it means the existing partition (i.e. Windows), not the one it's about to create. I would assume that the install process for Kubuntu is the same as the regular version, but I dunno. I would recommend defragmenting before trying to install it, though.

Other than that there's nothing complex about it. It just takes a while (it took about an hour to do on my 1GHz Celeron setup with 256MB of RAM, and most of that was just waiting around while it was installing the OS and programs automatically).

 

[PrawnJuice]

Actually, you don't really have to mess with the partitioning, as the Install CDs have a utility that does it for you. You only have to remember that when it asks you for the 'size of the partition' during the setup, that it means the existing partition (i.e. Windows), not the one it's about to create. I would assume that the install process for Kubuntu is the same as the regular version, but I dunno. I would recommend defragmenting before trying to install it, though.

Other than that there's nothing complex about it. It just takes a while (it took about an hour to do on my 1GHz Celeron setup with 256MB of RAM, and most of that was just waiting around while it was installing the OS and programs automatically).

Yeah a lot of people seem to get the impression that Linux is very difficult to install. I think it's from the old command prompt days of Linux, which are long since over.

To install Linux nowadays you just chuck in the disk, choose a few options and come back in an hour or two.

Windows annoyed the hell out of me how half way through the installation it'd stop to change more settings.

 

[DrunkMonkey]

The problem is that I would have to go into my windows settings, figure out what they are set at for my network, then figure out how to make the settings the same in Kubuntu. From what I have read alot of changing settings and things involves command prompts which I would rather avoid.

Once I got the internet to work, things would go more smootly since I could download any other drivers I might need. I would also have to figure out how to put all of my documents and things into a different partition so I could use them on both.

Program compatability is another issue. I've gotten used to my Windows desktop with all the widgets and themes and things. (I would love to have the KDE style "taskbar" in a skinned version on windows).