like Father like Son

[Hieronymus]

Should we have a discussion in your language, I'm sure that will be relevant. In a discussion carried out in English, no.

And so you conveniently skip the rest...

 

[Hieronymus]

"Information technology (IT) is the application of computers to store, retrieve, transmit and manipulate data, often in the context of a business or other enterprise."

Obviously it's primarily technology concerning information, but then i shouldn't have used the abbreviation...

Why? An arrangement of pipes contains information just as surely as DNA does.

That's just nonsense.

 

[sfs]

And so you conveniently skip the rest...

The rest of what? I replied to most of your post. I did skip this bit: "You see, the word "mutation" is not invented nor patented by evolutionists. It has been used before that, and it means "change", particularly changes that were made on purpose and / or with a goal." That's because it doesn't seem to have any relevance to the discussion. Yes, the word "mutation" predates its use in biology; words change meaning all the time "Mutation" currently has a technical meaning in biology, and that's the sense in which it is relevant to evolution.

I really don't know what the point of any of this is. Do you think the original poster's use of the law of large numbers was a valid argument? Do you have anything to say about the process of genetic mutation?

 

[joshua 1 9]

We all have heard the saying "like father like son". A son is usually like his father; if not, he must be like
his mother or grandfather or another ancestor. That's an undeniable truth. If a person has attribute X, that's because he/she inherited from his/her ancestors. If his/her ancestors have no attribute Y, then he/she is unlikely to have Y.

Now evolutionists say our ancestor was a bacteria -- a simple bacteria. How could a bacteria evolve
into something a million times more complex ??

They say with Time - billion and billion of years would be enough. They also quote the Law of Truly Large Numbers or its variant -- if there's a lot of time, anything is possible, no matter how improbable it is. The law is true, but it'd happen only once in a million times, this is what the Law of Large Numbers says.

They forgot there's also a Law of Large Numbers -- if there is a lot of time, the cumulative probability would converge to the theoretical probability.
For example, if you throw a dice 5 times, you might not have 1/6 as proportion of getting 1.
But if you do it 100000000 times, the proportion of getting 1 would converge to 1/6.
As another example, if you throw a coin 6 times, you might get 1 head or 5 tails. But if you throw it
10000000 times, you definitely get 50% of heads and 50% of tails (or close to it).

So if evolution were true, then the living things we observe in the world today would be like these:

1) system error
2) system error
3) system error
4) system failure
5) system break down
6) system error
7) system malfunction
...
...
1000000) error
1000001) system failure
1000002) perfect design
1000003) system error
...

But what we observe today are far from it.

What gave the bacteria the energy and strength to evolve in the first place?


Note: The Law of Large Numbers and The Law of Truly Large Numbers are 2 different laws.

Giant Bacteria over half a millimeter long (visible to the naked eye) living in the gut of surgeonfish is found to have over 300 times more DNA (1 trillion base pairs) than humans (3 billion base pairs).

 

[Hieronymus]

About random mutations surviving:
Hereditary diseases....

 

[joshua 1 9]

About random mutations surviving:
Hereditary diseases....

A lot of the research on DNA has to do with disease. Francis Collins recent book is all about the work they are doing. Mutations, errors and deletions are a cause of disease. I do not see where that has anything to do with evolution though.

 

[sfs]

About random mutations surviving:
Hereditary diseases....

It's not clear what point you're trying to make here. Yes, some mutations cause hereditary diseases. Other mutations don't do anything. Still other mutations cause traits that are beneficial in a particular environment. All of these are well known and understood by geneticists.