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I will, however, admit to accepting the current scientific theory on zygote formation in order to avoid ridicule from the scientific community. Deep down, though, I know that the Bible espouses preformatism.
You forget research by the great Victor Frankenstein which is at least 200 years old and the 16th century work of Rabbi Judah Loew ben Bezalel in Prague, though the golem was more silica based than organic.
We. Don't. Know.Did God cause the Big Bang supernaturally or through "naturalistic processes?"
Why could natural processes not have caused the Big Bang? Simply because we do not yet understand them doesn't mean they do not exist.Science knows and you do not! Naturalistic processes refers to the known processes found in nature. Naturalistic processes could not cause the Big Bang. So TE will debate the meaning of words rather than take a position. My working Hypothesis is building evidence.
Science knows what Van?Science knows and you do not! Naturalistic processes refers to the known processes found in nature. Naturalistic processes could not cause the Big Bang. So TE will debate the meaning of words rather than take a position. My working Hypothesis is building evidence.
And how does science know that, Van? Please describe the thought process that goes into reaching such a conclusion. Because it strikes me so far that you have little to no background in the philosophy science or epistemology, and that you are simply projecting your preconvictions onto evolutionary creationists with no solid grounding whatsoever.Science knows what? That the Big Bang did not happen because of naturalistic processes. Yes I know TE will say science knows no such thing. But denial does not alter the truth. You can look it up.
Did God cause the Big Bang supernaturally or through "naturalistic processes?"
Van, I questioned your background in the philosophy of science because when you say things like "science knows whether the Big Bang came about naturally or supernaturally", you are revealing a fundamental misunderstanding about what science is and what it can and cannot know.Hi Mallon, do you have an opinion on the subject. Please describe the thought process you use to ask questions about things that you have no opinion about. It strikes me that you like to disparage others, questioning their qualifications and so forth. Typical M.O of a light weight. When you lose the debate, attack the person. Trite.
Van, what defines theistic evolutionists (rather, evolutionary creationists) is not our views on the origins of the universe. Otherwise, we'd be called theistic Bang Bangers or somesuch.Folks, TE has been shown to represent no view whatsoever, seeing refuge in epistemology, not realizing the epistemological defense contains the seeds of its own destruction. I do not claim to be a scientist, but I did stay at a holiday inn.
Gravity precluded the big bang? Can you explain how you can be so definite about this?Science knows what? That the Big Bang did not happen because of naturalistic processes. Yes I know TE will say science knows no such thing. But denial does not alter the truth. You can look it up.
Is gravity a "naturalist process?" Of course. Does gravity preclude the big bang? Of course.
Artebloke, words having meanings. If you redefine natural to include supernatural, then you have just nullified the meaning of supernatural.
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