"Life and its building blocks are way too complicated to have evolved." [moved]

doubtingmerle · Sep 10, 2016

Hieronymus said:
Aha, you're a comedian?

No, class clown.

Now as I was saying, teacher, I know the process by which modern species arose. If you don't know, I would be happy to explain it to you.

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

doubtingmerle said:
So how is it that you think creation occurred by this process of yours that violates many laws of nature, as opposed to the process we suggest?

I think the complexity has been presented.
In the previous post I asked....how do the microtubules know where to assemble themselves? Can you even begin to explain how that process evolved? How about how to even construct themselves into the tubes? How does a process like that evolve?

The evo-answer...over long time. In which I say...Yeah, right.

Not to mention how the tube is perfect to establish the chemical reaction for the motor proteins "feet" to walk on...locomotion.

.....How do you explain that using evolutionism? How did the DNA change in such precise...exact...means? How?

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

doubtingmerle said:
It does? Why?

Many people have never opened a copy of the Journal of Morphology or similar primary source of scientific research on evolution. I have. If I wish to understand where others are coming from, then it seems to me to be a good question to ask people if they have.

Sorry if this makes me sound "pretty confused" but I have to ask. Have you ever opened a copy of the Journal of Morphology ?

Does your journal show how the motor protein and microtubule evolved? If not...see ya.

doubtingmerle · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
Now, just where can one find this ABUNDANT evidence?
Got support?

In the library. And in museums. And in colleges. And in the talkorigins archive. And on this thread. And...

AV1611VET · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
How does a process like that evolve?

The evo-answer...over long time.

That's like asking how a mouse trap works and getting the answer: "quickly."

"How" does not mean "how long."

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

doubtingmerle said:
In the library. And in museums. And in colleges. And in the talkorigins archive. And on this thread. And...

Dude....evolutionism is impossible.
All I read is claims and more unsupported claims.
HOW DID THE MOTOR PROTEIN EVOLVE? This is a discussion board. If you are unwilling to discuss the issue..with out claiming I should visit a museum....then MOVE ON.

doubtingmerle · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
HOW DID THE MOTOR PROTEIN EVOLVE?

http://www.ibiology.org/ibioeducati...bio/cytoskeleton/motor-protein-evolution.html

doubtingmerle · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
Dude....evolutionism is impossible.
All I read is claims and more unsupported claims.
HOW DID THE MOTOR PROTEIN EVOLVE? This is a discussion board. If you are unwilling to discuss the issue..with out claiming I should visit a museum....then MOVE ON.

Dude....zebras popping into existence out of nothing is impossible.
All I read is claims and more unsupported claims.
HOW DID THE ZEBRA POP INTO EXISTENCE? This is a discussion board.

bhsmte · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
Dude....evolutionism is impossible.
All I read is claims and more unsupported claims.
HOW DID THE MOTOR PROTEIN EVOLVE? This is a discussion board. If you are unwilling to discuss the issue..with out claiming I should visit a museum....then MOVE ON.

And we should believe you why exactly?

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

doubtingmerle said:
http://www.ibiology.org/ibioeducati...bio/cytoskeleton/motor-protein-evolution.html

2:30 into the video...he jumps to a conclusion. He doesn't realise the simularity are due to a common creator...code writer.

OK, now I'm 4:04 into the video...and getting pretty bored. The argument is...because they contain SIMILAR stuff..the must be related....He never really explains how they evolved....but suggest an assumption is true.

The one learned to walk on microtubules.....4:19....Oh, just like that, it learned to walk on microtubules. I notices he never explaine how they learned to walk.
6:50....NATURE has plugged in a bunch of different elements. OK, where did they come from?

All I saw was ASSUMPTIONS. Suggestions.

So, doubtingmerle....how did they evolve?

doubtingmerle · Sep 10, 2016

AV1611VET said:
That's like asking how a mouse trap works and getting the answer: "quickly."

I think you left out mutations and natural selection. When you ask how evolution occurred, we tell you mutations and natural selection acted through millions of years. You shorten that to "through millions of years" and claim we didn't address the process. We did address the process. You snipped it out when you echoed it back to us.

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

doubtingmerle said:
Dude....zebras popping into existence out of nothing is impossible.
All I read is claims and more unsupported claims.
HOW DID THE ZEBRA POP INTO EXISTENCE? This is a discussion board.

Dude, the UNIVERSE popping into to existence out of nothing via the big bang is impossible. YET, you believe it did...then you mock the poor zebra?

Do you not understand the need for a creator?

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

doubtingmerle said:
I think you left out mutations and natural selection. When you ask how evolution occurred, we tell you mutations and natural selection acted through millions of years. You shorten that to "through millions of years" and claim we didn't address the process. We did address the process. You snipped it out when you echoed it back to us.

But the mouse trap is irreducibly complex If you remove just one of the parts....it won't work. Sooooooooooo how did it evolve with out the parts functioning?

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

bhsmte said:
And we should believe you why exactly?

You're right...I believe in God. All my replies are nonsense. How can someone with a belief in God know anything?

bhsmte · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
You're right...I believe in God. All my replies are nonsense. How can someone with a belief in God know anything?

What does this discussion have to do with your belief in a God? Most Christians agree with evolution. So, I ask again, why should we believe you on this specific topic?

doubtingmerle · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
So, doubtingmerle....how did they evolve?

Mutations and natural selection over long periods of time.

We are talking about the formation of proteins that are fundamental to all life. As such, their evolution occurred very early in the process. We have extremely limited information about what happened then, so the best we can do is to piece things together based on the evidence we have. As the video points out, analysis of the proteins indicates they likely evolved from earlier proteins with simpler functions that evolved with time.

You can also look here: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v436/n7054/edsumm/e050825-09.html

Now tell me again what process you are thinking about that stands up to scrutiny better than the theory of evolution? Would you like to submit to us a process for forming the first motor proteins in the first zebra that you think has better scientific validity?

doubtingmerle · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
All my replies are nonsense.

We may need a clarification of the rules here. Is it OK to flame yourself?

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

bhsmte said:
What does this discussion have to do with your belief in a God? Most Christians agree with evolution. So, I ask again, why should we believe you on this specific topic?

Because evolutionism is impossible. That's why.

-57 · Sep 10, 2016

doubtingmerle said:
We have extremely limited information about what happened then, so the best we can do is to piece things together based on the evidence we have.

You're correct.....your theory is bassed upon assumptions and speculation. All you can be assured is that God wasn't part of it.

AV1611VET · Sep 10, 2016

-57 said:
Because evolutionism is impossible.

It works on paper though, and that's good enough for them.

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