D.W.Washburn
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I agree with some of your post. (Not the part about homosexuals). And I think it should be fun to have you around.
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I am VERY new to the ELCA (refugee from Roman Catholicism). What I find interesting is that if I were an alien monitoring Christian forums like this one, I would come to the conclusion very quickly that the two biggest problems facing this society today is homosexuality and abortion. No problems with hunger, no one in need of medical care that can't afford it, no one experiencing political oppression and / or marginalization.
For some reason, these are the two issues which most define someone as "liberal", "moderate" or "conservative" in Christian circles today. As for myself, I can't say that all homosexual activity is OK with me anymore than I can say that all heterosexual activity is OK and the same goes for abortions (sometimes I think it may be justified - even necessary - sometimes it can be downright homicidal).
My point is this: the folks in this forum seem to me to be much more intelligent and thoughtful than what I've observed in most other forums and what I see you all grappling with here (Bible inerrancy, the BoC, etc...) as benchmarks of what's "liberal", "moderate" or "conservative" is refreshing because most of the rest of Christendom is focusing mostly just on homosexuality and abortion (perhaps a few other "crotch" issues thrown in for good measure).
I think I'm going to enjoy this forum...
For some reason, these are the two issues which most define someone as "liberal", "moderate" or "conservative" in Christian circles today. As for myself, I can't say that all homosexual activity is OK with me anymore than I can say that all heterosexual activity is OK and the same goes for abortions (sometimes I think it may be justified - even necessary - sometimes it can be downright homicidal).
My point is this: the folks in this forum seem to me to be much more intelligent and thoughtful than what I've observed in most other forums and what I see you all grappling with here (Bible inerrancy, the BoC, etc...) as benchmarks of what's "liberal", "moderate" or "conservative" is refreshing because most of the rest of Christendom is focusing mostly just on homosexuality and abortion (perhaps a few other "crotch" issues thrown in for good measure).
I think I'm going to enjoy this forum...
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I am VERY new to the ELCA (refugee from Roman Catholicism). What I find interesting is that if I were an alien monitoring Christian forums like this one, I would come to the conclusion very quickly that the two biggest problems facing this society today is homosexuality and abortion. No problems with hunger, no one in need of medical care that can't afford it, no one experiencing political oppression and / or marginalization.
For some reason, these are the two issues which most define someone as "liberal", "moderate" or "conservative" in Christian circles today. As for myself, I can't say that all homosexual activity is OK with me anymore than I can say that all heterosexual activity is OK and the same goes for abortions (sometimes I think it may be justified - even necessary - sometimes it can be downright homicidal).
My point is this: the folks in this forum seem to me to be much more intelligent and thoughtful than what I've observed in most other forums and what I see you all grappling with here (Bible inerrancy, the BoC, etc...) as benchmarks of what's "liberal", "moderate" or "conservative" is refreshing because most of the rest of Christendom is focusing mostly just on homosexuality and abortion (perhaps a few other "crotch" issues thrown in for good measure).
I think I'm going to enjoy this forum...
Welcome to the Forum!
We are all refugees from Rome on some level.
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Levahddi
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Hello All,
I am a former Roman Catholic. I come from a large Italian family that is almost all Roman Catholic with the exception of my Uncle who married into a Lutheran family. It was largely through him that I was exposed to Lutheran Theology. At 24 I joined a Lutheran Church in NJ (ELCA) and have been a Lutheran ever since. I'm not really sure where that leaves me, I would say that I am conservative in regards to theology, but somewhat liberal or moderate in regards to everything else (application of theology).
I am a former Roman Catholic. I come from a large Italian family that is almost all Roman Catholic with the exception of my Uncle who married into a Lutheran family. It was largely through him that I was exposed to Lutheran Theology. At 24 I joined a Lutheran Church in NJ (ELCA) and have been a Lutheran ever since. I'm not really sure where that leaves me, I would say that I am conservative in regards to theology, but somewhat liberal or moderate in regards to everything else (application of theology).
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D.W.Washburn
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You know, I wish the Reformation had taken hold in Italy rather than Scandinavia. Then we Lutherans would have all those good pastas and wines. Instead, we got Lutefisk.
OH...and Hi, Habu. Welcome to the funhouse!
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Levahddi
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You know, I wish the Reformation had taken hold in Italy rather than Scandinavia. Then we Lutherans would have all those good pastas and wines. Instead, we got Lutefisk.
OH...and Hi, Habu. Welcome to the funhouse!
I'm also Polish, so I also have an affinity for pierogies and kielbasa
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There's got to be something wrong with anyone who doesn't like those. Now lutefisk OTOH...I'm also Polish, so I also have an affinity for pierogies and kielbasa
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What the ..... ?
Looks very horrible
Can you eat this?
Looks more like something I flush down the tiolet.
I'm not even sure I could be that mean to a toilet!
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I'm also Polish, so I also have an affinity for pierogies and kielbasa
In New York, in the Greenpoint section of Brooklyn there are many Polish people.
Pierogies and kielbasa are everywhere. They have simple diners where the food is cheap and delicious.
Ed
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Them Germans are weird anyways ...There's got to be something wrong with anyone who doesn't like those. Now lutefisk OTOH...
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Looks very horrible
Can you eat this?
Looks more like something I flush down the tiolet.
I'm not even sure I could be that mean to a toilet!
Despite the somewhat wicked looks ("don't judge the book by its cover" etc. etc.), mämmi is a traditional Finnish Easter dessert, served with cream and sugar. If done right, the baked malt porridge has a bit of a crust and is smooth & sweet inside. It's quite good, actually, but granted, *sometimes* we do have a bit of a fun and use this dish to scare foreign exchange students and visitors.
My family likes mämmi enough that no one will miss the Easter pasha and lamb as long as there is mämmi on our menu.? Does anyone know the history of the extra "e" in lut(e)fisk? It's a "silent" vowel anyway so what is it doing there? Whence did it come from and when?
Hmm, just wondering...
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You know, I wish the Reformation had taken hold in Italy rather than Scandinavia. Then we Lutherans would have all those good pastas and wines. Instead, we got Lutefisk.
OH...and Hi, Habu. Welcome to the funhouse!
There is nothing wrong with lutfisk with potatoes and white sauce with allspice. Not after you have experienced surströmming (fermented herring) anyways.
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D.W.Washburn
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I had a pastrami sandwich in a kosher deli one time that was a mystical experience. In a moment of epiphany I knew that God is Jewish.
They also had pickled trout in this deli. The devil is Jewish too.
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But pickled herring is the food of God, served with potatoes, sourcream and chives. (I haven't eaten breakfast today)
A nasty thing though is the nothern swedish delicacy paltbröd (bread baked with blood). Maybe suitable for the eucharist though.
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"Paradoxes in creative tension", that's me!
I'm only a closet Lutheran (I don't go to a Lutheran church, but I love reading Luther's stuff) but...
Somehow I manage to post on the liberal, moderate, conservative and fundamentalist forums, and get along pretty well in all of them... probably because I really am a little bit of all of those.
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