Liberal Christian?

[ottaia]

liberal in that the Word of God may or has errors, that sexual sins are really not sin at all, and lifestyles of such should be accepted. concern more about the earths kingdoms then the Kingdom of God and his righteouness. often thesistic evoultion and sometimes pro-abortion..which really is pro-fornication. pro rights for just about anyone and anything!
thats what I have it mean to be..
the only liberality we should have is Godly love! *God is righteous* *his love is also!*

Huh?

I guess my understanding of ranting is off tonight. Please be more coherent in your ranting in the future.

Your cooperation is appreciated!

 

[CaDan]

liberal in that the Word of God may or has errors, that sexual sins are really not sin at all, and lifestyles of such should be accepted. concern more about the earths kingdoms then the Kingdom of God and his righteouness. often thesistic evoultion and sometimes pro-abortion..which really is pro-fornication. pro rights for just about anyone and anything!
thats what I have it mean to be..

If I may ask, on what basis have you determined this?

the only liberality we should have is Godly love! *God is righteous* *his love is also!*

I completely agree. But I fear we may be assigning different meanings to these words.

If Chrsitianity is simply another variant of discipline and punish religion, include me out.

 

[JunkYardDog]

Huh? What are you talking about?

Try reading the thread first.

 

[Joykins]

Liberal meant generous in the KJV. The liberals of today always proclaim theirt own generosity (with other people's tax money) and their compassion.

Again, the confusion between Liberal theology and liberal politics.

Liberal churches may not share your viewpoints, but they are definitely out there giving to the poor and homeless in their communities far more than "Bible believing" churches do on a regular basis...I've seen it on both sides. WWJD

 

[PaladinValer]

Generosity and compassion are wrong?

**Converts to Atheism**

You heard it from a Christian's mouth: it's all bunk!

[/logical sarcasm]

 

[CaDan]

Generosity and compassion are wrong?

**Converts to Atheism**

You heard it from a Christian's mouth: it's all bunk!

[/logical sarcasm]

You're gonna have to PM a mod to get that icon changed!

 

[PaladinValer]

Why? Will you join me?

 

[CaDan]

Why? Will you join me?

*shnort*

Only if I can get Stray Bullet's St. Peter's Cross!

 

[AutumnAnne]

I thought he did a good job of telling you how I feel, too.

me too.

 

[PaladinValer]

Auntumn, you've already expressed the fact that you don't even know what they believe. Isn't that rather persumptuous of you?

 

[AutumnAnne]

Let me just say this. (Keep in mind that I am not nearly as eloquent as the rest of you). I am probably one of the most conservative 24 year olds you will ever meet. I have "Liberal Christians" in my family- and lately the idea has begun to scare me- and for a while I didn't know what to do about it. But I realized that maybe God is teaching me to be more compassionate.
Does it ever occur to the rest of you conservatives that the reason most people become liberal is because they feel that side is more accepting, and compassionate towards ALL people?
Maybe we should try to incorporate some of those values ourselves- and stop fighting the issue- and love them. We don't have to agree- just live by example. WE take the bible literally- and it literally tells us not to judge eachother.

 

[Joykins]

I don't think it matters if you take much of the Bible literally. This is probably one of the things that separate liberal from conservative.

 

[AutumnAnne]

I love you anyway

 

[Joykins]

But we only just *met*

Actually, I'm not sure it's possible to take the Bible literally...

 

[JunkYardDog]

Let me just say this. (Keep in mind that I am not nearly as eloquent as the rest of you). I am probably one of the most conservative 24 year olds you will ever meet. I have "Liberal Christians" in my family- and lately the idea has begun to scare me- and for a while I didn't know what to do about it. But I realized that maybe God is teaching me to be more compassionate.
Does it ever occur to the rest of you conservatives that the reason most people become liberal is because they feel that side is more accepting, and compassionate towards ALL people?
Maybe we should try to incorporate some of those values ourselves- and stop fighting the issue- and love them. We don't have to agree- just live by example. WE take the bible literally- and it literally tells us not to judge eachother.

First, the Bible does not literally tell us not to judge each other, but to judge each other with righteous judgment (John 7: 24 and 1 Corinthians 6).

Second, you are apparently telling us that the response conservatives should have to liberals is to become liberals? No thanks.

 

[monkman]

But we only just *met*

Actually, I'm not sure it's possible to take the Bible literally...

Everything in it or Anything in it?

"Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them."

"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble."

In the same hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. In the earthquake seven thousand people were killed, and the rest were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven.



I know. Not every word in the Bible can be taken literally, but much of it can (especially old testament). And what can't be literally true, is very closely figuratively true. (meaning that what the passage refers to figuratively {a.k.a. "And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.
"These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth." olive trees/lampstands repressent the witnesses; and the witnesses are real} are real)

 

[invisible trousers]

Liberal meant generous in the KJV. The liberals of today always proclaim theirt own generosity (with other people's tax money) and their compassion. The liberals are also genreous on their baby-killing, sodomy promotion, and such. That is why the VILE will no longer be called liberal.

you're kind of right, at the rate republicans are stumbling towards the conservative christian side pretty soon we'll be considered moderates.

also good work on totally misreading that passage and injecting your own personal bias in it

First, the Bible does not literally tell us not to judge each other, but to judge each other with righteous judgment (John 7: 24 and 1 Corinthians 6).

[bible]matthew 7:2[/bible]
maybe some of you should keep this in mind

 

[dr.p]

First, I agree with PacShady's assessment in Post #3, and think it's very well put.

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Does it ever occur to the rest of you conservatives that the reason most people become liberal is because they feel that side is more accepting, and compassionate towards ALL people?

Maybe we should try to incorporate some of those values ourselves- and stop fighting the issue- and love them. We don't have to agree- just live by example. WE take the bible literally- and it literally tells us not to judge eachother.

JunkYard's point about righteous judgement is right on. I've heard from liberals before that they were conservative and found it too exclusive of people.... but Jesus did say that He came to divide people (righteous vs. the un-), not unite them (Luke 12:51-53).

He never said disassociate yourself from the people you are divided against; so I agree with your point, Anne. If it's possible, to love your enemy, and yet remain their enemy, then it should definitely be possible to love anyone and maintain your own convictions.

But I do think there is a point where theological and philosophical liberalism becomes a detrement to the messages that Jesus came to instill in us. I've seen a lot of dust kicked up by liberal side-stepping... and the more dust, the more obscured the view.

 

[invisible trousers]

[bible]Luke 18:10-14[/bible]

 

[JunkYardDog]

you're kind of right, at the rate republicans are stumbling towards the conservative christian side pretty soon we'll be considered moderates.

Actually, it is the conservative Christians who are the most generous when it comes to giving from THEIR OWN money. The most recent surveys show the "red" areas of the country are the most generous in donations from their own pockets.

Matthew 7:2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
maybe some of you should keep this in mind

I do. When I preach against something, it is not something I am doing.