Leviticus 12

[Clare73]

I feel like we're talking in circles. The practical doesn't need to be in conflict with a God centered purpose and may be a part of it.

You're free to think what you want, but I'm talking about what is Biblically warranted, and not assigning one's personal notions to God, which notions are subject to error, and which the word of God is not.

 

[DamianWarS]

You're free to think what you want, but I'm talking about what is Biblically warranted, and not assigning one's personal notions to God, which notions are subject to error, and which the word of God is not.

Sure I get that, this is why I'm asking for your biblically warranted thoughts on the practical application which is reconcilable with a God centered purpose. (sorry for the wordiness but your diolog has forced it)

 

[Clare73]

Sure I get that, this is why I'm asking for your biblically warranted thoughts on the practical application which is reconcilable with a God centered purpose. (sorry for the wordiness but your diolog has forced it)

You mean like the prohibition of murder is good for the kids of the victim?

I'm not getting why a practical application seems necessary to you.

If my front door needs painting, and I choose to paint it green to match the bushes in front of my house, you are free to think my choice fulfilled a need for a green front door on my side of town.

That is not why I did so, and I don't understand why my purpose for the choice of color is not sufficient explanation, but my choice needs improving upon with a "practical" purpose.

 

[DamianWarS]

I'm not getting why a practical application seems necessary to you.

Because God cares about our well being. If that's true, laws are not just about the prophetic and they have practical value. With the fall of man what does God do? He clothes their nakedness. This is a metaphor for clothing our sin in rightouness through blood sacrafice and points to Christ but it isn't just lofty prophetic abstracts it also meets the immediate need by literally clothing their nakedness. The law is physical first and it points to the spiritual. So the law to present a sin offering after giving birth has profound deeper meaning but it also clothes the nakedness of the young mother.

 

[Clare73]

Because God cares about our well being.
If that's true, laws are not just about the prophetic and they have practical value.

Who made that rule?

With the fall of man what does God do? He clothes their nakedness. This is
a metaphor for clothing our sin in rightouness through blood sacrafice

No, my righteousness is only by faith in the sacrifice, not by the sacrifice alone.

and points to Christ but it isn't just lofty prophetic abstracts it also meets the immediate need by literally clothing their nakedness.

Their nakedness was because of sin.
The purpose of the clothing was to cover their sin, showing the meaning of the sacrifice from which the hide came, and instituting sacrifice as we find in Cain and Abel.
Revelation of clothing in righteousness by faith did not come until Abraham.

The law is physical first and it points to the spiritual. So the law to present
a sin offering after giving birth has profound deeper meaning but it
also clothes the nakedness of the young mother.

The young mother is not naked. . .
She is ceremonially defiled, not morally defiled, which ceremonial defilement requires ceremonial cleansing; i.e., sacrifice, typifying the meaning of the sacrifice that was to come in the NT, which cleansed from sin those who believe in and trust on the person and atoning work (blood, Romans 3:25) of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sin and right standing with God's justice; i.e., "not guilty," declared righteous with the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ (Romans 3:21), as Abraham was credited/imputed with the righteousness of God (Romans 1:17) when he believed in the promise of Jesus Christ (Genesis 15:5-6).

 

[daq]

Why is a woman to give a SIN offering after giving birth?
I get that because blood is involved in giving birth which can be a spreader of disease she is considered "unclean", like with the male who has a wet dream being considered unclean... but for the male having a wet dream, he's only to wash up, no sin offering is required.

Luke 2:22-24 ASV
22 And when the days of their purification according to the law of Moses were fulfilled, they brought him up to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord
23 (as it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord),
24 and to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.

Turtledove the first, (a sin offering).

Luke 2:25-35 ASV
25 And behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and this man was righteous and devout, looking for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Spirit was upon him.
26 And it had been revealed unto him by the Holy Spirit, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
27 And he came in the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, that they might do concerning him after the custom of the law,
28 then he received him into his arms, and blessed God, and said,
29 Now lettest thou thy servant depart, Lord, According to thy word, in peace;
30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all peoples;
32 A light for revelation to the Gentiles, And the glory of thy people Israel.
33 And his father and his mother were marvelling at the things which were spoken concerning him;
34 and Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the falling and the rising of many in Israel; and for a sign which is spoken against;
35 yea and a sword shall pierce through thine own soul; that thoughts out of many hearts may be revealed.

Turtledove the second, (an ascending offering).

Luke 2:36-39 ASV
36 And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher (she was of a great age, having lived with a husband seven years from her virginity,
37 and she had been a widow even unto fourscore and four years), who departed not from the temple, worshipping with fastings and supplications night and day.
38 And coming up at that very hour she gave thanks unto God, and spake of him to all them that were looking for the redemption of Jerusalem.
39 And when they had accomplished all things that were according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.

Moreover, in prophetic typology and symbolism, the women are the cities are the covenants.

Leviticus 15:25-31, (yamim rabim, 1260 days), Genesis 3:15, Ezekiel 16, Ezekiel 22, Isaiah 66:7-9, Revelation 12.

 

[Arctangent]

Leviticus 15:13-15 (NKJV)
"13 And when he who has a discharge is cleansed of his discharge, then he shall count for himself seven days for his cleansing, wash his clothes, and bathe his body in running water; then he shall be clean. 14 On the eighth day he shall take for himself two turtledoves or two young pigeons, and come before the Lord, to the door of the tabernacle of meeting, and give them to the priest. 15 Then the priest shall offer them, the one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering. So the priest shall make atonement for him before the Lord because of his discharge."