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<blockquote data-quote="FredVB" data-source="post: 74718053" data-attributes="member: 259043"><p>For the answer to you, you posted this:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you did not at all follow. Though it is seen I do have belief in God, that is not what I brought into discussion. It is not relevant to the point if you answer about what you think about a god or a god-god.</p><p></p><p>My assertion is that everything of the universe existing really exists. Something of existence necessarily exists. If this were not so, there would have been really nothing, nonexistence, and there is no way all the universe, or anything at all, could come from true nonexistence. The only choice you have, logically, is existence came into being from nonexistence before it without any cause, which I say is ridiculous, or there is existence that is necessary existence, with existing necessarily, this existence is without limit and always exists, without beginning and without ever ending. Coming up with a claim of another option you call Mystery is not another choice for this logic, it is only the one or the other.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Still, I answered what my own personal thinking is, though I hadn't seen why I should, but had you telling me you would answer further with understanding it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet still you haven't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FredVB, post: 74718053, member: 259043"] For the answer to you, you posted this: No, you did not at all follow. Though it is seen I do have belief in God, that is not what I brought into discussion. It is not relevant to the point if you answer about what you think about a god or a god-god. My assertion is that everything of the universe existing really exists. Something of existence necessarily exists. If this were not so, there would have been really nothing, nonexistence, and there is no way all the universe, or anything at all, could come from true nonexistence. The only choice you have, logically, is existence came into being from nonexistence before it without any cause, which I say is ridiculous, or there is existence that is necessary existence, with existing necessarily, this existence is without limit and always exists, without beginning and without ever ending. Coming up with a claim of another option you call Mystery is not another choice for this logic, it is only the one or the other. Still, I answered what my own personal thinking is, though I hadn't seen why I should, but had you telling me you would answer further with understanding it. And yet still you haven't. [/QUOTE]
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