Let's make divorce illegal

[TheBear]

Since there is so much talk about the marriage institution being threatened I say let's all sign a petition and request a law banning divorce. We also need a constitutional amendmant to redefine marriage as a union between a man and woman which is NOT SUBJECT TO BE BROKEN. Divorce is actually the biggest threat to the marriage institution. Statistics show that 50% of all marriages end up in divorce. The marriage institution is most definitely threatened. God hates divorce. The Bible says that those who divorce commit adultery. The Bible says adulterers can't enter the Kingdom of Heaven. We must ban divorce now! We must prevent half the married population from sending themselves to eternal hellfire! So you say that you don't get along anymore and nothing productive is coming out of your relationship? Too bad you need to suck it up! (Oops I almost forgot to put the stupid clappy faces in that people like to use when condemning others) ...there I feel better now.

Now back to my rant. So you say your husband pushes you around and acts abusively towards you? Too bad, you need to figure it out. The Bible doesn't give you permission to divorce an abusive husband. Deal with it!
<-- one more clappy face for ya

Now back to reality. This rant was a mock version of similar rants that are going on today. I hold no judgment against people who decide to divorce. The purpose of this rant was to prove several points. One point is to prove how one can take a few verses in the Bible and twist them to a narrow minded agenda. It's bad enough to try to confine God to a book but many try to confine him to a few verses that suit their personal prejudices.

Basically all I have done is interchanged divorce with the current homosexual marriage argument that is in the news. In doing so I have exposed several hypocrisies. If you search all over CF you will not find a single post that condemns divorce in such a way as the above rant. Yet every single day you will find someone ranting here about the sins of homosexuals. In Washington the republicans rant about homosexuals damaging the marriage institution yet say nothing about divorce damaging the marriage institution...a much greater threat to marriage than homosexuals could ever be at a whopping 50%. Many Christians rant about how homosexuals are causing society to morally degrade but those same Christians are strangely silent on divorce. Where are all the rants against divorce in the Christian community? Their silence gives the impression that they are ok with divorce or at least leave the matter up to the individual and God. This exposes the hypocrisy of anti-gay republicans and anti-gay fundamentalists. How they select certain sins to pick on when they ignore other things that are much more blatantly a threat to family values. So in closing I have one question to all the anti-gay CF posters. How do you justify all your anti-gay posts yet remain silent on matters such as divorce? Divorce/adultery is mentioned in much greater detail in the Bible than a same sex committed relationship.

Brian

Senator Hillary Clinton outlined this very sentiment on the Senate Floor a month or so ago, when speaking against the Constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages. (Of course, she used this analogy to make her argument against a ban on same-sex marriages - that neither should be constitutionally banned. )

 

[Philosoft]

Myth.

Summary of Rumor:
Marriage has deteriorated so much that half the marriages in the United States are failing. There is a 50 percent chance that your marriage will not make it.

The Truth:
This is a fascinating piece of misinformation that is so respected that it is quoted without attribution by some of the best authors, broadcasters, and writers.

Marriage is a lot of hard work and people who are putting that work into it don't need the discouraging and untrue burden hanging over their heads that their relationship has only a 50 percent chance of surviving.

The error has resulted from various misreadings of the statistics.

One is to compare the number of marriages in a given year to the number of divorces in a given year. It is true that in any given year there may be twice as many marriages as divorces. If, in your state or county, there were 100 marriages last year but 50 divorces, it would seem, at first glance, that half the marriages were ending in divorce. But that figure does not take into account all the marriages that already existed. In a year in which there were 100 marriages and 50 divorces, for example, there may have already been 1,000 other marriages that already existed. That's an entirely different picture and means that only 5 percent of the marriages ended in divorce, not fifty percent. Of course, if that continues to happen every year, there is going to be an impact on the overall number of divorces compared with the overall number of marriages.

Veteran pollster Louis Harris says that only about 11 or 12 percent of people who have ever been married have ever been divorced. That means that by his figuring, 90 percent of American marriages survive.

Researcher George Barna did a professional survey which was designed to reflect the nation as a whole. He found that 24 percent of adults who had ever been married had experienced divorce.

Regardless, there isn't any credible source that we've found to support the fifty percent divorce rate myth.




That being said, No fault divorce has got to go. No-Fault divorce was the radicals first step to destroying marriage. Their latest attempt is redefining the institution. Before No-Fault Divorce one had to prove Adultery, Abandonment or Abuse in court to be granted a divorce.

I find it ironic that the leftists are bringing up the divorce problem when it is them who caused it. They were the ones who pushed for the no-fault divorce laws in the 1970s.

AND Conservatives in several states have been pushing for Covenant Marriage Laws (Which remove the No-Fault Option) and the radical leftists have been opposing these laws at every turn as it is Their entire intention to destroy the family.

This is hilarious. Allow me to translate:

"Even though no-fault divorce is statistically much less of a problem than is commonly thought, it must be eliminated because liberals are evil."

Your ability to think objectively about any political issue is completely subsumed by your extreme ideological bent.

 

[MKalashnikov]

This is hilarious. Allow me to translate:

"Even though no-fault divorce is statistically much less of a problem than is commonly thought, it must be eliminated because liberals are evil."

You translate wrong, on purpose. I never said any such thing, and putting words into my mouth is dishonest.

You know exactly what I ment. 11%-24% is still to high. It doesn't have to be 50% for a problem to exist. No-Fault divorce was just a vehicle for the destruction of the family pushed by radical feminists. They wanted to change the idea of marriage from one of an absolute vow before Almighty God to one of pleasure and feelings.

No-Fault divorce is a problem because it undermines a bedrock institution. It needs to be eliminated and the old Fault system restored (with the options of covenant marriage this is starting to happen.) If a spouse breaks the marriage vow with adultery they should be punished criminally.

The leftists on this board who bring up the divorce issue do so to try to flip the script.

Their entire premise falls apart when you realize that it is they who actually support no-fault divorce and will oppose things like covenant marriages.

The entire idea that Christians don't speak out against divorce is laughable. The fact is Christians opposed no-fault divorce and are currently working on the Covenant marriage laws many states. The leftists who want to destroy the family of course oppose these laws.

Your ability to think objectively about any political issue is completely subsumed by your extreme ideological bent.

Actually I think this would apply to you, not me. The difference between us is that I recognize that there are Moral Absolutes and that those absolutes are set by Almighty God himself.

 

[aLx]

Keep dreaming.

The laws of nature are the laws of God whose authority can be superceded by no power on earth. A legislature must not obstruct our obedience to Him from whose punishment they cannot protect us. All human laws which contradict His laws we are in conscience bound to disobey — George Mason​

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What I meant by we must accept it, is that we must accept its going to happen anyway, whether we endlessly moan about it (like we are doing) or whether we embrace it, whilest saying it is against our beliefs. In doing that we would not only get respect from gay people because we respect them, but we would also have a much better opportunity to talk to them about why we think its wrong. I never meant to say we should accept it and leave it alone.​

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1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals,

1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Ok well if that verse means that we should NOT try to accept fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, abusers, homosexuals, thieves, covetous, drunks, revilers, extortioners for what they are - people, sinners, as we ALL are - then you are right. However it does not. No where does it say we should not try, we should not communicate our beleifs to these people, rather than rant and rant and just put people off the whole idea. And I fully believe that if any of these sinners described in these verses gave up their life to Jesus and said sorry they would inherit the kingdom of God. The way me constantly moan is going to get us no where near bringing any of them to Christ.