If one believes that humans were created by God, then one assumes that God created us with a sex drive for a reason. Feeling attraction to other humans is natural, enjoying sex is natural. Lust is a natural emotion.
The knowledge of good end evil. God doesn't appear to like puppets. And we certainy will not tolerate a puppet master. Otherwise King David would have been smoked the second time he looked at Bathsheba bathing.
Like I as a parent do not want my children having to have me live their lives for them. And anyway, we seem to have an instinctive response to be free.
I mean, if God didn't want humans to lust, He would have made sure that we can not.
Puppet Master God. No bueno.
You are free to stifle your impulse to lust if you feel it is best for you.
It can save your life and the life of someone else.
But others need to resist temptations under their own will power. It is not our job as Christians to point out the motes in our brothers' (and sisters') eyes.
Where is that written? In my Bible, we are to remove the beam from our eye "and then" go and help our brothers with theirs. Isn't that what Jesus said?
Were those in favor of civil rights "forcing their beliefs" on people who were against them? No one can make you like or support equal rights for gays - but our Country should not be making laws based only on religious beliefs.
Prop 8 was decided by democracy.
None of the Disciples advocated against equal rights for gay people. Neither will I.
Without doubt you are wrong. It's just impossible to posit that the Apostles promoted oir condoned gay sex. In fact we see the exact opposite. They most certainly taught against same gender sex acts to be engaged in by believers. Start a new thread on that subject and I will be more than happy to post the scripture.
It is possible. But I act out of love, trying to gain rights for a minority I feel needs to be fully recognized by the legal system as fellow human beings.
A man is already a fully recognized human being. A woman is already a fully recognized human being. What sex acts they desire to engage in is not a minority qualifier.
And "your side" seeks what? To prevent a group from using a legal term that you feel is "sacred" in your religion - even though that term has changed many times in the past.
We desire to stop the Gay Agenda in its tracks. Out of the schools once and for all forever.
"Love thy neighbor as thyself."
And Jesus said encouraging people to sin is a worse sin than just sinning.
Except for the pleasure centers in the human anus?
There is no normal reason to be penetrating the anus. Only for a medical exam maybe, but that's it. That is an absolute fact. Call any doctor and see.
And the fact that other animals also appear to occasionally have homosexuals among them.
Comparing humans to unreasoning beasts engaging in aberrant behavior is not painting gay activism in a good light at all.
I'd have to see what day it is. They seem to have a gay day about every other day. I have my kids in private school for a reason. They can get introduced to debauchery when they're are a bit older.
*sigh* I'm afraid I don't get you, Polycarp_fan. On occasion you make some really good points, and I see potential for really great and challenging debate with you. But you so rarely let me see your more intellectual side. *sigh*
That side of me is far more oppositional to gay activism and gay activists than my rather rough persona. There is no room for error at all. Trust me on that. Satan is a very real issue to a real Christian. I've already beeen called to do work on dismantling Newsweeks gay marriage issue. There is no such thing as same-gender marriage from the Biblical perspective. To try to present that there is, is a base lie. Why don't you start a thread on the issue and I will contend against it intellectually.
