Come on Loudmouth. Show us all how it is done. Show us all it can be done.
Just demonstrate any part of any of your clades for us with your cards.
Read the opening post. This thread is a challenge for creationists. It is up to YOU to show us how to organize cards based on differences. Come on Astrid. Show us all how it done.
Show us how to organize cards by differences, or admit that organizing things by differences doesn't work. That is what this thread is asking for.
As an illustration of how cladistics works (or doesn't work in this case) I would like to challenge a creationist to put playing cards into categories based on the differences between the cards.
Any takers?
Re your last post..you intentionally left out the best bit ..."Birds are a group".......
Clubs represent a kind/group with a reversed hallux.
Spades represent a kind/group with a blow hole
Diamonds represent a kind/group with gills
I left out the bit that had nothing to do with cards. Cards do not have a reversed hallux.
Cards do not have a reversed hallux.
Spades do not have a blow hole.
Diamonds do not have gills.
You still have not shown how to organize CARDS into separate groups based on differences that cards actually have. The challenge in the opening post remains.
Do you remember me sayng this?
"Loudmouth regardless of this ridiculous idea I have done as you asked. You are simply going to keep moving the goal posts.
The challenge is to organize playing cards by the differences between the cards. You haven't done this. If you think I am wrong, then point to a single playing card that has a reversed hallux.
The goal posts have not moved since the opening post.
I left out the bit that had nothing to do with cards. Cards do not have a reversed hallux..
Those are mammals, not cards.
Loudmouth, it may surprise you to learn there are no traits that look like a diamond, spade, club or heart.
You have moved the goalpost because now you are asking us to all go insane and hallucinate!
If you want to use cards suits as symbols they need to be symbolic.
Clubs represent a kind/group with a reversed hallux.
Wat dat?No playing card has a reversed hallux.Clubs represent a kind/group with a reversed hallux.
I left out the bit that had nothing to do with cards. Cards do not have a reversed hallux.
Cards do not have a reversed hallux.
Spades do not have a blow hole.
Diamonds do not have gills.
You still have not shown how to organize CARDS into separate groups based on differences that cards actually have. The challenge in the opening post remains.
The challenge is to organize playing cards by the differences between the cards. You haven't done this. If you think I am wrong, then point to a single playing card that has a reversed hallux.
I would like to draw everyone attention to Loudmouths post above.
Loudmouth in his desperation to save face is now requesting that creationists demonstrate group traits that are akin to diamonds, clubs, hearts or spades.
Clubs represent a kind/group with a reversed hallux.
Loudmouth I have grouped playing cards based on differences.
teI again hate to be the one to tell you that there are no traits that look like the suits on cards.
So how does one group if not to use traits?
You do realize, don't you, that I am going to embarrass you over this adnauseum indefinitely?
Wat dat?
Where?
This sentence makes no sense at all. Are you saying that cards do not have clubs on them?
THAT IS EXACTLY MY POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for finally agreeing with me.
One can not group things by differences or discontinuities. You form groups based on similarities.
Yes, I am so embarrassed that I can not see that clubs have a reversed hallux. You got me on that one. How stupid of me for not seeing that.
Oh . . . wait. That is just some stupid bovine excrement that you made up. How embarrassing for me . . .
Rubbish. Indeed I bolded the differences you silly person. and related them to card suits as requested
eg a fish does not have a blow hole.
Clubs represent a kind/group with a reversed hallux.
The Bird kind . . .
In fact the excretement demonstated is that you Loudmouth are so frustrated with creationists and so require an excuse for your existence on this forum that you started a spoof thread that has done nothing more than demonstrate how disengaged from reality you really are.
I didn't ask for you to relate physical characteristics from species to cards. I asked for you to organize cards based on the differences between the cards. That has been the request from the very start. You continually try to change the subject away from that challenge. Why is that.
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