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Les Miserables

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Read the book, watched the old movie, and DYING to watch the new one.
But due to a film festival in our country the showing was moved to January.

So to those who watched it already, how was it?
Is it as really as good as what I think it is?
or should I lower my expectations?

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I am not a huge musical theater buff, but I do enjoy and have some very strong opinions about how it should (and should not) be done. I also had never read the book nor seen the show, so this was my first experience with it.

I quite enjoyed the movie. Some of the main characters were pretty weak singers (notably Amanda Seyfreid and Russel Crowe), but even then, I didn't think there performances were terrible.

As a professional audio designer, I appreciate that this film is basically the kind of thing that sound guys wait their entire careers to work on (even guys who regularly do big budget films). The singing was all recorded live, on-set; there was no lip syncing. And to my earlier comment about how musicals should not be done: my #1 complaint with musical theater -and the thing that keeps me from being a true fan of the genre- is that the production is frequently unnecessarily cheesy to the point of being distracting. And even if it's not cheesy, it's too slick and detracts from the seriousness of the subject matter. This movie did not do that. At all. In fact, they took pains to avoid that: Anne Hathaway's "I Dream A Dream" is a single, unedited 3-minute close-up, and there's not one drop of reverb anywhere. There were a couple of very brief moments where it flirted with cheesiness: a couple were nods to the theater buffs (before Fantine sells herself, I thought the prostitutes looked kind of cartoony, like you'd see on stage) and a couple were just strange choices for camera angles, but other than that, it was spot-on.

But even the weak singing worked to the film's advantage at times. Crowe's Javert was pretty flat and one-dimensional, but his singing had a gritty, strained quality that lent itself well to some of the hatred and conflict he's expressing.

That's not to say that all of the singing was bad. Marius, Eponine, the revolutionaries and ensemble are FANTASTIC.

Valjean's death scene was wonderful. I can say without exaggerating that the entire theater was audibly crying.

So, to answer your question: whether you should lower your expectations depends on what you're looking for. I have a bunch of friends who are in the theater and their opinions are mixed (let's just say that they're a little harsher on the singing). While I don't think they're wrong, I do think that was more than outweighed by the other creative decisions that were made, which supported the weight and emotion of the material.

-Dan.
 
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I'm going to disagree w/ the previous poster in that Russell Crowe was not weak in his singing... in fact, I thought he was one of the best. Actually, I thought there wasn't a single mis-cast role, with the possible exception of Cosette. I did love Amanda Seyfried in Mama Mia! but Cosette may have been too high for her. Then again, I've always been more of a fan of Eponine than Cosette anyway (and Samantha Barks was spot on as Eponine).

I thought the fact that they were all singing as they were filming added a lot of emotion to the film; you could bond with the characters more than if they'd dubbed all their singing in a studio afterwards.

And I totally agree with the previous poster on Valjean's death. It was beautiful. There was not a dry eye in our theatre.
 
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I just saw it and it was the best film I've seen in a long, long time. I was in tears the whole way through and I enjoyed it so much more than the stage musical (in the stage musical, I couldn't understand what was going on when five people were singing different words all at the same time, and I somehow managed to miss the second time shift... which certainly didn't help matters!)

And I don't think anybody was a weak singer. True, I'm not a singer myself, but I am perfectly capable of hearing when people are straining for a note... and I didn't notice a single instance of this. I'm actually quite surprised that some reviews dissed the singing.

I absolutely loved it... but I am still not going to struggle my way through that mother-of-all-doorstops book it's based on, though!
 
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I'm with Dan (post #2). In fact, almost word for word, although I'll be less generous about Russell Crowe. He was dire and I felt his death scene should have been moved into Act 1.

I defy anyone with any ability to lose themselves in a film, not to weep at times. Ann Hathaway's 3 minute rendition of I Dreamed an Dream was mesmerising. I've seen the stage production twice, and the film matches, and in some cases surpasses the live version.
 
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HorsieJuice

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My parents wanted to see the movie until I told them how unchristian the movie was. Alot of theatrical things look good, but when you see them for what they are you realize how messed up they are in terms of christian values.

How unchristian it is? Seriously? Did you actually see the movie? One of the main story arcs is about a guy trying to do good to others as a means of processing the grace and forgiveness he received from a priest.
 
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