Legitimate Political Discourse? Really?

[Opdrey]

Aren't you on the left?

You just raise BLM like ALL THE TIME. You seem obsessed with race topics. While this is important in American civil discourse, it does seem weird that you shoe-horn it into EVERYTHING but never seem to have anything positive to say about race.

Just an observation. I'm sure other things scare you as well, but race seems top of the list right now.

 

[Ana the Ist]

You just raise BLM like ALL THE TIME. You seem obsessed with race topics. While this is important in American civil discourse, it does seem weird that you shoe-horn it into EVERYTHING but never seem to have anything positive to say about race.

It's positive that parents are removing Critical Race Theory from the classroom.

Just an observation. I'm sure other things scare you as well, but race seems top of the list right now.

Sure sure...hey, thanks for the input. I'm looking forward to more of your opinions about me random internet guy.

 

[Opdrey]

It's positive that parents are removing Critical Race Theory from the classroom.

OK! Now we've gone from BLM to CRT. Why not throw in "reverse racism" for a trifecta of grievance?

Sure sure...hey, thanks for the input. I'm looking forward to more of your opinions about me random internet guy.

Glad I can help. I'm enjoying the show. I can't wait until you bring up another Conservative Race Fear Trope.

 

[Ana the Ist]

OK! Now we've gone from BLM to CRT. Why not throw in "reverse racism" for a trifecta of grievance?

Because "reverse racism" isn't a thing? It's just racism.

Glad I can help. I'm enjoying the show. I can't wait until you bring up another Conservative Race Fear Trope.

I've got no idea what that is.

 

[Opdrey]

I've got no idea what that is.

The words are self-explanatory.

 

[Ana the Ist]

The words are self-explanatory.

I'm not familiar with any "conservative racial fear tropes".

I am familiar with some liberal racial fear rhetoric...

"Police are hunting down and killing black men!"

That's a good example of one. Can you give an example of a conservative racial fear trope?

 

[Opdrey]

I'm not familiar with any "conservative racial fear tropes".

That's strange. Because you demonstrate them a lot. You try to introduce BLM into ever conversation. And then you jumped over to CRT. Seems to me you are amazingly familiar with them.

"Police are hunting down and killing black men!"

Oh no...look out! He's about to whip out "Defund Police"!!! Take cover!

 

[Ana the Ist]

That's strange. Because you demonstrate them a lot.

Oh?

You try to introduce BLM into ever conversation.

Hardly.

And then you jumped over to CRT. Seems to me you are amazingly familiar with them.

You asked me for something positive that is race related. I gave you parents standing up against CRT.

Regardless, I think I see the problem. BLM and CRT aren't tropes...those are real things.

Trope-n.

- a word or expression used in a figurative sense

These aren't expressions...these are real concepts and organizations that are trying their best to influence society.

They're open to criticism.

Oh no...look out! He's about to whip out "Defund Police"!!! Take cover!

If you want me to...I'll gladly mention that Cori Bush is still pushing defund the police.

I can see why people wouldn't want to be reminded of these things.

 

[Opdrey]

Oh?



Hardly.



You asked me for something positive that is race related. I gave you parents standing up against CRT.

Regardless, I think I see the problem. BLM and CRT aren't tropes...those are real things.

Trope-n.

- a word or expression used in a figurative sense

These aren't expressions...these are real concepts and organizations that are trying their best to influence society.

They're open to criticism.



If you want me to...I'll gladly mention that Cori Bush is still pushing defund the police.

I can see why people wouldn't want to be reminded of these things.

Why does CRT scare you so? Don't you like history? Even the unpleasant parts of it?

 

[SimplyMe]

Republicans seem to depend on fear. Now these aren't racist but there is the "Socialist!" "Communist!" "The Great Reset" "Democrats want to take away your religious rights!" There are a ton.

I'll admit, I do see racial fear from Republicans but almost all of it is "hidden." Some of it is wrapped around illegal immigration, such as "They are coming for your jobs" -- typically with pictures of a tan skinned Hispanic person. There is plenty of talk about crime, typically with pictures of scary looking Black men. There are Trump's lines about "crime infested places from which they came," when talking of inner cities or even the countries that some Congresswomen's families come from. It seems to me that most of what I hear from Republican candidates often centers around fear, and how they'll keep people "safe" from the "evil Democrats and how they want to destroy America."

 

[chad kincham]

I guess Oath Keepers are all Antifa false flag actors then. They even knew we'd get to see their private messages where someone asked that they'd heard it was Antifa and their leader replied that there were only patriots there. And he'd kept the act up for years!



That's from Reuters, saw the quotes originally from another source.

Lemme guess, your "actual news organisations" is a blogger from somewhere?

Oath keepers didn’t break into the capital building.
They were there, which does not make them guilty.

The whole thing was a Democratic Party sponsored and planned false flag, as evidence shows.

Authorities are investigating why there were multiple security failures that day - it was on purpose, not an accident that security was so lax.

Security failures at every level on Jan.6:

Security, intelligence failures led to Jan. 6 insurrection: Bipartisan Senate report

False flags are SOP for the Democratic Party, as project Veritas proved in 2016 with undercover video of Democratic Party operatives bragging about sending their actors dressed as Trump supporters, to cause fights that were blamed on Trump supporters, as these video clips show the false flag in operation:

Project Veritas 2016 Democratic Party operatives using false flags against Trump:

Sting Video Purports To Show Democrats Describing How To Commit Voter Fraud


Fed involvement in Jan 6?

Were feds involved in facilitating the 1/6 siege? Number of unindicted co-conspirators raise questions.



Antifa breaking into capitol:

Antifa escorted by police into DC:

Capitol police waving crowd past barriers:

Two Antifa members posing as Trump supporters spotted by law enforcement:

Known Antifa members posed as pro-Trump to infiltrate Capitol riot: sources


DC police open the door and let Trump supporters come in (entrapment)

Two Antifa posing as Trump supporters ID’d:

 

[Ana the Ist]

Why does CRT scare you so?

Seems like a mistake to undo all the progress we've made regarding race.

.Don't you like history? Even the unpleasant parts of it?

Yeah. That's got nothing to do with CRT though.

 

[7thKeeper]

Oath keepers didn’t break into the capital building.
They were there, which does not make them guilty.

The whole thing was a Democratic Party sponsored and planned false flag, as evidence shows.

Authorities are investigating why there were multiple security failures that day - it was on purpose, not an accident that security was so lax.

Security failures at every level on Jan.6:

Security, intelligence failures led to Jan. 6 insurrection: Bipartisan Senate report

False flags are SOP for the Democratic Party, as project Veritas proved in 2016 with undercover video of Democratic Party operatives bragging about sending their actors dressed as Trump supporters, to cause fights that were blamed on Trump supporters, as these video clips show the false flag in operation:

Project Veritas 2016 Democratic Party operatives using false flags against Trump:

Sting Video Purports To Show Democrats Describing How To Commit Voter Fraud


Fed involvement in Jan 6?

Were feds involved in facilitating the 1/6 siege? Number of unindicted co-conspirators raise questions.



Antifa breaking into capitol:

Antifa escorted by police into DC:

Capitol police waving crowd past barriers:

Two Antifa members posing as Trump supporters spotted by law enforcement:

Known Antifa members posed as pro-Trump to infiltrate Capitol riot: sources


DC police open the door and let Trump supporters come in (entrapment)

Two Antifa posing as Trump supporters ID’d:

From your own link.

but the outlet deleted the article after the software company told Buzzfeed News that the story was “outright false.”

You're posting links to articles that themselves say that what you are trying to claim is false.
And yeah, your other "actual news organisations" were, well not bloggers, but YouTubers. Same difference. This is just pure conspiracy theory drivel on your part. I remember these being discussed here on this forum a year ago and they were shown to be baseless bull even then.

But the Oath Keepers are saying that no one there was Antifa. Do you not trust their word?

 

[Opdrey]

Seems like a mistake to undo all the progress we've made regarding race.

Spoken like a white guy!

Yeah. That's got nothing to do with CRT though.

Spoken like someone who's toein' the Tucker Carlson line. Kudos.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Oath keepers didn’t break into the capital building.

If by "break into the capital[sic] building" you mean force open doors or break windows, then no they didn't "break in". If "break in" means entering illegally, then they absolutely did.

They were there, which does not make them guilty.

If "there" = "inside the Capitol", then that specific fact *does* make them guilty of the trespass crimes.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Spoken like a white guy!

Or an intellectual.

Spoken like someone who's toein' the Tucker Carlson line. Kudos.

Never watched him in my life. If he sounds like me, he's obviously a lot smarter than he gets credit for...

Regardless, since your response was to infer that my skin color makes me "wrong" and associate me with a tv personality you don't like....

You've provided me more justification for pointing out the racism that has gone rampant on the left.

 

[Opdrey]

Or an intellectual.

Uh huh.

Never watched him in my life.

There is NOTHING I love more than hearing a Right-winger claim they never listened to <insert name of Right wing talking head>.

I'm a progressive and I've listened to Tucker Carlson! LOL.

You see, a TRUE intellectual actually listens to all the sides.

If he sounds like me, he's obviously a lot smarter than he gets credit for...

LOL.

Regardless, since your response was to infer that my skin color makes me "wrong"

Sorry, correlation.

and associate me with a tv personality you don't like....

No, you just SOUND like you listen to him. You seem to parrot his type of view.

You've provided me more justification for pointing out the racism that has gone rampant on the left.

You and I both know you didn't need any justification for your views.