leadership

[SonicBOOM]

hey everyone I would appreciate your views on leadership. I'm posting this here because I don't wanna hear just Christian perspectives. I wanna hear as many views as I can. I don't know about any of you but I personally haven't had alot of helpful wisdom about what leadership is all about. So here's a couple of questions:


1. Is leadership necessary?

2. Why?

3. In what situations do you think leadership is most helpful?

4. What qualities do you think make up a good leader?

5. What should happen if a leader fails his/her responsibilities?

6. Should leaders be open about their weaknesses?

 

[AWorkInProgress]

Just going dump a great passage on this subject.

John 13:3-16

3 Jesus knew that the Father had given him authority over everything and that he had come from God and would return to God. 4 So he got up from the table, took off his robe, wrapped a towel around his waist, 5 and poured water into a basin. Then he began to wash the disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel he had around him.

6 When Jesus came to Simon Peter, Peter said to him, “Lord, are you going to wash my feet?”
7 Jesus replied, “You don’t understand now what I am doing, but someday you will.”
8 “No,” Peter protested, “you will never ever wash my feet!”
Jesus replied, “Unless I wash you, you won’t belong to me.”
9 Simon Peter exclaimed, “Then wash my hands and head as well, Lord, not just my feet!”
10 Jesus replied, “A person who has bathed all over does not need to wash, except for the feet,[c] to be entirely clean. And you disciples are clean, but not all of you.” 11 For Jesus knew who would betray him. That is what he meant when he said, “Not all of you are clean.” 12 After washing their feet, he put on his robe again and sat down and asked, “Do you understand what I was doing? 13 You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and you are right, because that’s what I am. 14 And since I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you ought to wash each other’s feet. 15 I have given you an example to follow. Do as I have done to you. 16 I tell you the truth, slaves are not greater than their master. Nor is the messenger more important than the one who sends the message.

Enjoy!

 

[The Nihilist]

Just going dump a great passage on this subject.



Enjoy!

This is entirely wrong. The correct answer to every question about leadership is always Optimus Prime.

 

[R3quiem]

hey everyone I would appreciate your views on leadership. I'm posting this here because I don't wanna hear just Christian perspectives. I wanna hear as many views as I can. I don't know about any of you but I personally haven't had alot of helpful wisdom about what leadership is all about. So here's a couple of questions:


1. Is leadership necessary?

2. Why?

3. In what situations do you think leadership is most helpful?

4. What qualities do you think make up a good leader?

5. What should happen if a leader fails his/her responsibilities?

6. Should leaders be open about their weaknesses?

Of course leadership is necessary. Without any form of it, there would be chaos.

It's necessary in families, parents are the leaders and children follow and learn.

It's necessary in governments, so that things can get done and people can have access to things they need.

Leadership is obviously not always so perfect, because the leaders themselves are never perfect, but it's better than having no leaders at all.

I'd say a good leader is intelligent, bold, kind, and inwardly humble. They should maybe be closed about their weaknesses to their enemies, but of course they should be open about them to god.

The Bible seems to approve of leadership. There are tons of references to masters and servents. Leadership is just how things get done, on earth at least.

 

[The Nihilist]

I'd say a good leader is intelligent, bold, kind, and inwardly humble. They should maybe be closed about their weaknesses to their enemies, but of course they should be open about them to god.

And can turn into a truck.

 

[AngelaE8654]

This is entirely wrong. The correct answer to every question about leadership is always Optimus Prime.

Never heard of that. What is it?

 

[R3quiem]

And can turn into a truck.

Can't really argue with that I guess, Prime is pretty cool.

 

[The Nihilist]

Never heard of that. What is it?

We are not friends.

 

[WingsOfTheNeophyte]

1. Is leadership necessary?
Yes

2. Why?
Because people are a herd of sheep

3. In what situations do you think leadership is most helpful?
Situations where thinking/reason is required

4. What qualities do you think make up a good leader?
IQ, good communication skills, logic

5. What should happen if a leader fails his/her responsibilities?
A new leader should take the old leaders place

6. Should leaders be open about their weaknesses?
No, sheep should not have clearance to that level of information

 

[SonicBOOM]

thanks everyone for your replies I wanna pick out a few random things. Though first I'm gonna pick at the thing that is just begging to be picked on.

This is entirely wrong. The correct answer to every question about leadership is always Optimus Prime.....

And can turn into a truck.....

We are not friends.

stop trolling or I'll get a moderator on you. If you wanna goof off start your own thread, but don't hijack mine.

John 13:3-16

3 Jesus knew that the Father had given him authority over everything and that he had come from God and would return to God. 4 So he got up from the table, took off his robe, wrapped a towel around his waist, 5 and poured water into a basin. Then he began to wash the disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel he had around him.

6 When Jesus came to Simon Peter, Peter said to him, “Lord, are you going to wash my feet?”
7 Jesus replied, “You don’t understand now what I am doing, but someday you will.”
8 “No,” Peter protested, “you will never ever wash my feet!”
Jesus replied, “Unless I wash you, you won’t belong to me.”
9 Simon Peter exclaimed, “Then wash my hands and head as well, Lord, not just my feet!”
10 Jesus replied, “A person who has bathed all over does not need to wash, except for the feet,[c] to be entirely clean. And you disciples are clean, but not all of you.” 11 For Jesus knew who would betray him. That is what he meant when he said, “Not all of you are clean.” 12 After washing their feet, he put on his robe again and sat down and asked, “Do you understand what I was doing? 13 You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and you are right, because that’s what I am. 14 And since I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you ought to wash each other’s feet. 15 I have given you an example to follow. Do as I have done to you. 16 I tell you the truth, slaves are not greater than their master. Nor is the messenger more important than the one who sends the message.

I'd say a good leader is intelligent, bold, kind, and inwardly humble.

I really like these 2 answers

I've been doing some of my own reflecting and I think these are the 2 extremes. Though I guess one thing that has gotten me confused is where to balance the 2. I guess what I'm saying is how can you be authoritative without being tyrannical? Like how can you execute the law without becoming a dictator? I guess what I often see is 2 extremes. There's the servant which is described above, it's helpful and it teaches us, though in order to do it Jesus had to remove his authority in order to wash feet. You can't remove your authority as a catch all or there will be no authority. However here's the other angle, how can you execute the law in a way that is just and fair but in a way that is also teachable? I mean if someone messes up do you punish them? Or do you give them mercy? How can you know your not punishing for punishment sake? [or showing mercy for the sake of mercy]. Neither tactic teaches really anything as they are both serving the purpose they are trying to accomplish. Justice for the sake of justice and mercy for the sake of mercy. As they say? 2 of a trade never agree.

 

[The Nihilist]

stop trolling or I'll get a moderator on you. If you wanna goof off start your own thread, but don't hijack mine.

Bring it, son. And stop getting people to write your college entrance essays for you.

 

[quatona]

1. Is leadership necessary?

Depends on the purposes.

2. Why?

Well, if you favour anarchy for example, leadership is downright contrary to your goals.

3. In what situations do you think leadership is most helpful?

In situations where people could as well do without a leader.

4. What qualities do you think make up a good leader?

Depends on the situation.
Sometimes it´s not more than knowledge.
In other contexts compassion, a good eye for the whole as well as the details, communication skills, an antenna for the needs of the group as well as the individuals (plus the needs of those who are outside the group), honesty, good structural and logical thinking, and the absence of the will for power would make a good leader (just to name the first that come to mind).
Whilst in other instances (like when leading a group to war) a certain ruthlessness, a strong "us vs. them"attitude and the ability to antagonize and polarize might come in handy. However, I think if war is the way to go for him he has failed already, anyways.

5. What should happen if a leader fails his/her responsibilities?

I have problems with such "should" questions.

6. Should leaders be open about their weaknesses?

For starters, I think at least knowing ones weaknesses helps you to be a good leader.
Whatever, most weaknesses are also strengths at the same time, depending on how you deal with them.

 

[AWorkInProgress]

Bring it, son. And stop getting people to write your college entrance essays for you.

Marked_Chris,

Don't waste your time with people like that. If he becomes an eye sore just put him on ignore list. Getting into an arguement only feeds the beast.

 

[The Nihilist]

You should listen to him

 

[Quietuss]

ok, everybody come follow me to the realm of infinite happiness... step in line to die.

 

[SonicBOOM]

hey if there's any moderation on duty... can we close this thread please?