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First I need to apologize I was wrong about the first time Paul wrote about his experience in 1Cor 9. It is felt Paul wrote this between 53-54 AD so maybe 20 years afterwards.
You are wrong about a lot of things. Let me show you...
Irrelevant. King Agrippa was a Roman. He may or may not have known the Aramaic or Hebrew language, or that God usually spoke to his people (the Jews) in that language. Acts 9 & 22 were to fellow Jews, who did know that.1, Act 9: 3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Act 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless…
Acts 26:14 “ And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.”
Hebrew tongue, didn’t mention that in Acts 9 or 22,
2, was it all of them fallen or just Saul falling and who was standing where?
What are you talking about?? They all fell to the ground, including Saul. No inconsistancy there. His companions may have gotten up after that and therefore "stood speechless".
Wow, big whoop!
3, It actually does not say he saw Jesus, you don’t know that until Ananias say he saw him.
Here you are just flat out wrong.
Acts 9:5 “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. (Ananias isn't introduced until verse 10)
Acts 22:8 “ ‘I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,’ he replied. (Ananias isn't introduced until verse 12)
Acts26:15 “ ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the Lord replied. (No mention of Ananias. King Agrippa probably didn't know the guy, so who cares?)
4, Act 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
Act 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
Who heard what when?
Again, flat out wrong.
Acts 9:7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone
Acts 22:9 My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me.
His companions heard the voice or sound, but not know who it was. No inconsisitancy here. Move along...
5, Act 9:9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.
Act 22 & 26 There is no mention of the three days and his fasting.
So? Does not change any of the details of the other accounts, nor provide evidence of any inconsistancy.
Laying on of hands and being filled with the Holy Spirit are unimportant to repeat. Verse 22:10:6, 7, &8 there are several different points here
Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales:
Acts 22
13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
No laying on of hands in his account and no being filled with the Holy Ghost. In the first account the scales fell away immediately in his own account it took an hour.
"‘Get up,’ the Lord said, ‘and go into Damascus. There you will be told all that you have been assigned to do."
That covers that error of yours.
As for the scales, let's take a closer look:
Acts 9:18 "Immediately"
Acts 22:13 "At that very moment"
"the same hour" does not mean it took an hour. The Greek words used here mean "the same time" or "that very moment"
No inconsistancy here...
9, In Acts 9 :6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
The Lord tells Ananias what Paul’s calling is but Ananais never relays that message to Paul
Acts 22 Ananias tells Paul what is calling is
In Act 26 Paul says Jesus told him what his calling is
16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
Selecting texts out of context does not prove your point. In Acts 9:16, Jesus tells Ananais that He will "show him how much he must suffer for my name." In verse 19 "Saul spent several days with the disciples in Damascus". Do you think Jesus lied or do you think during the several days Saul was shown his purpose? Do you think Ananais was one of those disciples?
He doesn’t even mention being blind for three days and forgets Ananias altogether .
And why would that information be important to King Agrippa?
I could get pickyer but I think this makes my point.
Please, by all means, get pickier. I would love to show you the error of your ways.
The sad thing is, the lds have to attack the Bible in order to attempt to make their points or make their version of doctrine seem better. The Bible has stood the test of time and will continue to.
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