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WordForUs

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Well one of our teacher in the university sayd something interesting about how did the human language develop.

So she sayd something like ...
At the beginning man was one so he counted only for himself he whent out he killed one rabbit and so on.
But then he met the woman and they became two .
So he started to count to two.Then they became three four and so on....
So basicly she sayd that that's how did the language evolve in meaning of words and viraity or something....

Anyway i was thinking this ..

If we evolved from mokeys and so on how will you justify that none other animal developed human language.

I'm sure that no one disagrees that cants and dogs and so one have their own language as it is foolish to go blind about the fact that they do communicate with sounds and understand each other.
Everyone who doesnt believe that should get a cat or a dog.

So my point is why did we develope "if we take the view point of an evolution believer" such a complex language and different languages and none other animal did the same.

Lets think about it at the beginning.

Monkey make sounds.
Dogs make sound.
Birds and so on...
Before we were able to speak i'm sure that we made sounds like the other animals capable of doing such thing.
So how come only we have a language and so ona nd the rest of the animals dont ?
Why don't they develop it now ?
They had enough time for it and we live on the asme planet after all in the same conditions.

I want to ask also why does anyone think that animals are operating only on instincts ?
Isn't it clear that for example a cat has to think to deal with new environement and solv different problems like any one of us to be able to live.
I don't think that theyjust move their legs just ebcause they have an instinct to lol.

Instinct is a reaction.
You put your finger on fire and you move it back.Reaction.
That has nothing to do with solving problems to live, move and so on.
Also someone sayd that cats can't tell us about the past like we do.So because of that we developed our languages and so on.

Can i strongly dissagree ?
Cats remamber everything !
And because they don't have the need to tell us why should they develop a language ?

Evolution theory smells in this thing.

Organisms developpe and change only to the rquired extend.
Cats dont need to name a PC nor they need to use words like universe and so on.
In fact NONE animal needs to.

Evolutions says random mutations and the best survives ?
Well who the hack needs to have a complex language ?
None other animal needs to have such thing on the face of earth and yet we do ...

Some say it's because we are so many and the social part forced the development of complex language.

Totaly wrong !
How about bees ??? Or so many creatures that live together and dont even use sounds !

Hove come living in the same place and time with all the other animals who are usin vocal expressions to communicate only we have languages ?

Anyway :) I think that All animals are able to think.
The pattern of thinking is the same here and there.
Any animal thinks and has this pattern to be able to solv dayly problems and so on.
The fact that they don't need to develope it and only we did is totaly proving evolution theory wrong.

If evolution is true for us whey is it not true for the rest of the entire world of living organisms !

Anyway :)
I think that all animals speak and have languages.
The fact that they are not so complicated as ours doesn't make them more or less not languages.
 

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If we evolved from mokeys and so on how will you justify that none other animal developed human language.
No other animal is human. They have their own rudimentary languages.

How come other animals never invented the computer? Or juggling? Or Beanie-Babies?
 
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No other animal is human. They have their own rudimentary languages.

How come other animals never invented the computer? Or juggling? Or Beanie-Babies?
Heh .... :)

Like we all live in the same place with the same evolution conditions and we are almost all alike and yet only and only we have complex languages.

I have to say it for 10000 time :)
The Evolution theory works only for animals and not a single part of it works for us.
 
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Heh .... :)

Like we all live in the same place with the same evolution conditions and we are almost all alike and yet only and only we have complex languages.

I have to say it for 10000 time :)
The Evolution theory works only for animals and not a single part of it works for us.
That is because humanity follows a more LeMarckian model than does the animal kingdom., and this is true because we have adaptable technologies.
Monkeys don't create lasting or complex technologies, so each new monkey has to learn every monkey technology, and no real progress is made. People, on the other hand, inherit complex technologies from their predecessors. You don't have to learn how an internal combustion engine works, you only have to learn how to drive a car. It is for this reason that our situation is not purely Darwinian.
Of course, it had to be evolution that gave us our great big brains and opposable thumbs and whatever else makes us able to make cars.
 
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Heh .... :)

Like we all live in the same place with the same evolution conditions and we are almost all alike and yet only and only we have complex languages.
No, we don't all live in the same place with the same conditions. This is why we see morphological differences between the native peoples of Africa, Europe, Asia and the Americas.

I have to say it for 10000 time :)
The Evolution theory works only for animals and not a single part of it works for us.
Where did you get this? Humans meet all the requirements for evolution to act on them.

* Reproduction
* Heritable traits
* Imperfect transmission of heritable traits to offspring

That's really all there is to it.
 
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ReluctantProphet

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The distinction between animal and human is not in the indivual talent but in the complexity involved.

To have a spoken language only 2 things are required;

1) Be able to make and hear the sounds.
2) Be able to represent thoughts with those sounds.

An animal can make a sound and relay a very short idea, but a human can string sounds together so as to make words, sentences, stories, and volumes/libraries.

The difference is in available complexity of the elements in intelligence and is not a small difference.
 
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