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Frankly, if nature has anything to say about it, hair length isn't an issue one way or the other. Otherwise, men's hair would not grow past a certain point. Adding shame into the equation is, imo, strictly a man-made thing.Also I use the KJV which says Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? Rather than it is a dishonour to him. Maybe it's the same but I think it's slightly different
After all, Jesus left a really short list...love God with all your heart and mind and love others like you love yourself. There isn't much need for weekly meetings once you get those two things down.
it could be referring to many things such as the inclination for most men to have short hair, the more physical and natural (nature) role of men, meaning work, requiring shorter hair in general or it could be something else. I'm not a Pastor but I believe the Bible instructs men not to have long hair. I wasn't in the military but a high percentage of militaries require men to have short hair for solid reasons.Frankly, if nature has anything to say about it, hair length isn't an issue one way or the other. Otherwise, men's hair would not grow past a certain point. Adding shame into the equation is, imo, strictly a man-made thing.
Fellowship and Eucharist.
Though there are some really thought-provoking things that can come up in a sermon as well. My favorite involving ethical concerns was actually at a Unitarian Universalist church (i.e., the Church of Secular Humanism). It was given by a UU army chaplain who had gotten himself in trouble for opposing drones during the Obama Administration, setting off an intriguing legal battle between church and state that almost nobody actually heard about. So here he was, preaching to a group of secular humanists about conflicts of conscience and holding to one's values even where it would be convenient to do otherwise.
Point being, there's always something to talk about on Sunday. Always.
That would probably be covered by Jesus' second commandment, huh? If you wouldn't like someone else flying armed drones over your house and killing people, maybe you shouldn't be doing it to others.
Like I said, once one gets those two things from Jesus handled, not much reason for weekly meetings.
I'm not looking to argue, just discuss. What about 1 Corinthians 11:14? I think a man should have short hair. But not shaved to the scalp, as far as I know
Why would such a harmless thing be seen as dishonorable? Also if it is dishonorable why are so many of the characters of the Bible depicted with long hair?
Apparently the weekly meetings aren't helping then, huh?
Sure they are, but I'm pretty High Church. More sacraments, less moralizing.
Calling people out where they're going wrong is extremely valuable, though. That's a role that any church, regardless of religion, can really play well. That's why I brought up an example from a non-Christian, secular church. You do need some sort of external input if you care about moral growth.
When religion fails to play that role and actually encourages people to continue going wrong, then we've got a serious issue.
True, shorter hair is simply practical in some environments, for both men and women.it could be referring to many things such as the inclination for most men to have short hair, the more physical and natural (nature) role of men, meaning work, requiring shorter hair in general or it could be something else. I'm not a Pastor but I believe the Bible instructs men not to have long hair. I wasn't in the military but a high percentage of militaries require men to have short hair for solid reasons.
I wasn't in the military but a high percentage of militaries require men to have short hair for solid reasons.
For sure. That's a 20th century thing related to helmets and other headgear. It certainly wasn't true in the past. Military men back in the day often had long hair--not to mention mustaches and full beards.
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Not just heavy metal. I remember when light pop music was considered devilish. Interestingly, I once saw a video of a preacher in the late 1940s making the same exact charges against big band jazz.Why does Christianity label harmless action/things/activities as immoral? Examples:Heavy Metal,
Not just heavy metal. I remember when light pop music was considered devilish. Interestingly, I once saw a video of a preacher in the late 1940s making the same exact charges against big band jazz.
Back beats were from pagan worship practices
Minor keys showed a lack of relationship with God
"Blues notes" incited ungodly lust and sexual desires
Baptist bible teacher Bill Gothard also added that "alternative chords" and complex chords were sinful and satanic.
So it was not just metal music.
It goes back farther than that. Julius Caesar started it for his army before he became the emperor. He found in battle the gaulish "barbarians" would grab a soldier by the beard or hair and then either run him thru with a sword or bash him with a club. So he demanded his soldiers have short hair and be clean shaven.For sure. That's a 20th century thing related to helmets and other headgear. It certainly wasn't true in the past. Military men back in the day often had long hair--not to mention mustaches and full beards.
Why does Christianity label harmless action/things/activities as immoral? Examples:Heavy Metal, Dungeons & Dragons, long hair on men, braless women, etc. Secondary question: What is the boundary that separates action from immoral action? If you cannot answer question 2 then how can you know right from wrong in terms of morality?
Note. If you claim something is immoral/wrong/bad, please say why with as much detail as possible.
It has been said to me that only a saved person can understand the Bible properly.
I think a lot of the Bible is not up for interpretation and is clearly written.
I haven't been a Christian very long so I don't know much but I know sorcery is not a good thing in the Bible. I think D&D has magic etc?
To be open, I'm not trying to be sanctimonious or an authority. I even played the videogame Dishonored a month or so ago which has character called the outsider who inhabits a world called the void, he gives the protagonist "magical" abilites. I did stop playing games for around a month when I became Christian. Then I argued it was maybe ok. Now I'm unsure again and have stopped. I think as long as it doesn't dishonour God I am generally ok however it's never that simple.
Sorry for rambling on a bit
Things are immoral if they are contrary to God's intended design.
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