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There are, but I disagree with Kylie. I think that the contradictions are entirely consistent with them being descriptions of real events. Complete consistency of second and third hand accounts smacks of funny business.There are no contradictions. If you’ve actually done your own research, you’d know that.
There are, but I disagree with Kylie. I think that the contradictions are entirely consistent with them being descriptions of real events. Complete consistency of second and third hand accounts smacks of funny business.
I don’t believe so.You went further than that....
I don’t believe so.
Yes, but what is meant by "inspired" can vary among Christians.
In any case, if you believe the author of II Timothy that the scriptures were divinely inspired in some sense, it appears that he was referring to the Tanakh. Which, if any of the Gospels were meant to be included is unclear.Yup...
yes, I think I agree with what you're saying.Well in procreation -- A human begins as a zygote - not viable in the wild.
Suppose the Bible said God created Adam on day 1 of Adam's life as a zygote and left him there in the dirt -- there would be no day-2 for Adam. So instead God created Adam as a fully capable adult...
but then the atheist evolutionist says "oh no wait! That would be God lying ... making it appear that Adam is 25 when in fact he is only 1 day old".
The question is, what would be the point? Did he do it just to "save" a literal interpretation of Genesis favored by modern Evangelicals?yes, I think I agree with what you're saying.
if God created Adam middle-aged (or, as I like to think, as a teenager),
no reason why he couldn't have made the universe "middle-aged".
would that be a lie?
well, any miracle will produce a kind of apparent false past.
a similar example to Adam's creation is Jesus turning water into wine.
the apparent past of the wine was then different from its actual past.
Where have I hear that before?You have completely missed the point.
well, as a side note, I think the position of pool balls after a break is chaotic, not random (if I understand those two terms correctly).Given that the position of the balls is essentially random after they have been broken (assuming that they were hit with sufficient speed), just about any position could be considered. To run a computer simulation of such a position to see if it could have come from a break would have so many variables that it's essentially impossible to calculate.
You are correct in that if there is no way to tell, either possibility should be considered. Hence, with no way to tell from the note, the best way to tell would be to investigate the reality - the table and balls themselves. This is analogous to us studying the universe to see what we can learn. Unfortunately, we have the equivalent of some people who insist that any study of the table and the balls themselves leads to the wrong conclusions and the text is right no matter what.
And, of course, you define what the "truth of the Scriptures" is. How convenient.Okay, everyone, here's my input on this matter that has gotten outta hand.
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
This "hold the truth in unrighteousness" has a dual meaning here.
The idea, in the second sense, is that someone "holds back" the truth in unrighteousness.
Remember how I'm fond of saying science can create mental blocks that people can't get around?
That's what's happening.
In the case of evolution vs creation, the "truth" is creation.
But some "hold that truth back" because they believe in something that is unrighteous (i.e., evolution).
So to say someone is "holding the truth in unrighteousness" is, in a sense, saying they are preventing the truth of the Scriptures from taking root in their mind because they believe in something that suppresses that truth.
I think the big question in the OP is:suppose that the document does not actually state that the robotic arms placed the balls in such a way that they would leave traces on the felt of the table top.
however, it does say that the arms are sophisticated enough to have done that.
Then you define it.And, of course, you define what the "truth of the Scriptures" is. How convenient.
yes, I think I agree with what you're saying.
if God created Adam middle-aged (or, as I like to think, as a teenager),
no reason why he couldn't have made the universe "middle-aged".
would that be a lie?
well, any miracle will produce a kind of apparent false past.
a similar example to Adam's creation is Jesus turning water into wine.
the apparent past of the wine was then different from its actual past.
I think the big question in the OP is:
Does the document that was left on the pool table break the tie or not?
One person says the balls were placed there (design), while another person says the balls came to rest there as a result of a break (chaos).
Alfred prefers to use the document to "break the tie" and believe the balls were placed there by hand.
The only truth of scripture is our salvation in Christ.Then you define it.
And after you've done that, give me an example of "holding the truth in unrighteousness."
Not how Christ describes it in Mark 7.The only truth of scripture is our salvation in Christ.
In any case, if you believe the author of II Timothy that the scriptures were divinely inspired in some sense, it appears that he was referring to the Tanakh. Which, if any of the Gospels were meant to be included is unclear.
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