Kwanzaa

[footballfanatic]

I've known for some time that Kwanzaa was a made-up holiday. But just how "made up" and how political and outright racist I didn't know until I read this: The Many Falsehoods of Kwanzaa

The original goal was to divide white and black Christians, apparently.

 

[praying]

I jut went to a Kwanzaa celebration, no mention of dividing whites and blacks, in fact there were white people there. The celebration was at my sister's house. The theme of their Kwanzaa celebration this year, how to keep the family together.

Imagine that, the horror, and so racist.

 

[praying]

Why does it offend/scare white people so much when black people celebrate/attempt to empower themselves?

 

[Sistrin]

The article wasn't about you, or your sister.

 

[MrJDSmith]

Why does it offend/scare white people so much when black people celebrate/attempt to empower themselves?

why would black people get scared / offended if white people have white pride / empower themselves?

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[Sistrin]

why would black people get scared / offended if white people have white pride / empower themselves?

That's different. When black people champion black pride and/or black power they are only raising their collective spirits or celebrating their unique heritage or some such. When any white even mentions the fact they are white, it can only be motivated by sheer hatred of everyone not like them.

But we as white people don't even have to mention it, we are racist simply by virtue of the fact we are white. Unless you are a liberal, then you get an exemption.

Just ask the DNC.

 

[footballfanatic]

That's different. When black people champion black pride and/or black power they are only raising their collective spirits or celebrating their unique heritage or some such. When any white even mentions the fact they are white, it can only be motivated by sheer hatred of everyone not like them.

But we as white people don't even have to mention it, we are racist simply by virtue of the fact we are white. Unless you are a liberal, then you get an exemption.

Just ask the DNC.

Very true. Obama had a coalition group, funded by the taxpayers, called "African Americans for Obama." What if we had a "White Americans for Ron Paul." Well that would just be racist of course.

Or a NAAWP?

I recently saw a writer, on her blog, encourage her readers to go out and support black authors by buying their books. What if a white writer, let's say J.K. Rowling, encouraged her readers to support white authors by buying their books. Oh my, the media would crucify her.

Anyway, we digress. To answer you response Praying, Sistrin is right, the article wasn't about you. It was about the origins of Kwanzaa and the man who started it and his intentions.

 

[Grizzly]

There is nothing wrong with black pride or white pride. What matters more is what you are proud of - and how your pride causes you to act.

 

[Rion]

Why does it offend/scare white people so much when black people celebrate/attempt to empower themselves?

It isn't a race issue.

Why shouldn't Christians be against a holiday specifically made to take the focus away from Christ? The stated intention has always been to take away from Christmas and Hannukah. If it doesn't bother you at all to know its intended goal, fine. Some of us eat meat, some do not, as Paul says. Why, then, must you assume the worst of fellow believers if it does bother them?

 

[Chajara]

It's almost as if people don't understand the concept of privilege in this thread. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

 

[praying]

why would black people get scared / offended if white people have white pride / empower themselves?

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Actually I personally could care less, but we all know that is not the same thing at all. Such false equivalency.

 

[praying]

The article wasn't about you, or your sister.

No kidding sherlock!

 

[praying]

That's different. When black people champion black pride and/or black power they are only raising their collective spirits or celebrating their unique heritage or some such. When any white even mentions the fact they are white, it can only be motivated by sheer hatred of everyone not like them.

But we as white people don't even have to mention it, we are racist simply by virtue of the fact we are white. Unless you are a liberal, then you get an exemption.

Just ask the DNC.

 

[Sistrin]

Actually I personally could care less, but we all know that is not the same thing at all. Such false equivalency.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[praying]

It isn't a race issue.

Why shouldn't Christians be against a holiday specifically made to take the focus away from Christ? The stated intention has always been to take away from Christmas and Hannukah. If it doesn't bother you at all to know its intended goal, fine. Some of us eat meat, some do not, as Paul says. Why, then, must you assume the worst of fellow believers if it does bother them?

I have never been to any Kwanzaa celebration that even mentions Christianity, I have been to many with lots of Christians though.

 

[praying]

Thanks for proving my point.

Okay whatever floats your boat.

 

[Grizzly]

Blessed are the peacemakers.

 

[praying]

and those who don't celebrate Kwanzaa

 

[WalksWithChrist]

I've known for some time that Kwanzaa was a made-up holiday. But just how "made up" and how political and outright racist I didn't know until I read this: The Many Falsehoods of Kwanzaa

The original goal was to divide white and black Christians, apparently.

All holidays are made up. That's kind of the point. We identify something special or significant about a date or time period, and we put a big "This is Now a Holiday" stamp on it.

I could write an article as long as that deconstructing Christmas. And you can easily, and people do this every year, make a case for Thanksgiving being racist.

 

[footballfanatic]

Praying, once again, I'll point out what we're talking about.

1. Kwanzaa was DESIGNED to take away those who were celebrating Christmas. Period. That's said by its starter's own words.

2. It was designed by people who believed that there should be a culture war where blacks attack whites and they made Kwanzaa to be part of this.

Those are two facts. I wish you'd deal with those in a logical manner instead of defending it just because you've been duped by it. By your signature it also looks like you've been duped by this very, very bad President.