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I Don´t Know If They Are Satanist:
But 2 Facts Are True:

1.- Make-up Is Clumsy, Clown-like, I Am Sure They Are Not A Good Option For Culture Or Intelligence Increasing.
2.- Bible Says "take Good, Reject Bad", On This Case, I Prefeer Reject Stupid, Unreal, Not Bible Oriented, Pro-sexual Lyrics.

"painted-face Look Is Only Part Of Their Entretaining Show"... Barney, Bob Spounge Square Pants, Sesame Street, They Do It Also For This Porpouse.
I Understand It For Toddlers & Little Kids Capting Attention, But On Teenagers . .
. . P L E A S E . . .

Christian Life Is An Example Of High Standars On Intellect Use And Wearing.
 
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I Don´t Know If They Are Satanist:
But 2 Facts Are True:

1.- Make-up Is Clumsy, Clown-like, I Am Sure They Are Not A Good Option For Culture Or Intelligence Increasing.
2.- Bible Says "take Good, Reject Bad", On This Case, I Prefeer Reject Stupid, Unreal, Not Bible Oriented, Pro-sexual Lyrics.

"painted-face Look Is Only Part Of Their Entretaining Show"... Barney, Bob Spounge Square Pants, Sesame Street, They Do It Also For This Porpouse.
I Understand It For Toddlers & Little Kids Capting Attention, But On Teenagers . .
. . P L E A S E . . .

Christian Life Is An Example Of High Standars On Intellect Use And Wearing.
Seriously, why do you people who are completely against anything that doesn't "praise God" bother posting on the secular forums? It's a waste of everyone's time to have people preaching about their PERSONAL OPINIONS.

I got news for you. 98% of the Christian artists you listen to, listen to secular music themselves. A lot of them listen to KISS.

CJ
 
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It's Gene who is demonic for example his nickname is the demon and he also said how his childhood hero's were king kong, batman and satan.

First, Gene's nickname isn't the Demon, "the Demon" is the name of the character he plays onstage.

Second, if you ever see the clip from his show where he says that his heroes were "King Kong, Batman, and Satan", it's clear that he isn't the one who said it.

When you see the clip, the interviewer asked him how he came up with the character, he says, "growing up, my heroes were King Kong, Batman..."

While he pauses for the interviewer to continue, it is his son, sitting next to him, who interjects "and Satan!", not Gene.

Gene then nods condescendingly and says, "OK. And Satan". When you see the clip, it is clear that he's horsing around with his son and not giving a serious answer to the question.

And he didnt write the lyrics it was Paul Stanley.

Actually, he wrote or co-wrote many of their songs.
 
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I happen to really like the band KISS i just cant stop listening to their music. My mom keeps saying their demonic but back then they were considered demonic they dont really sing about demonic stuff though. I think it is just Gene Simmons. If you know alot about this band please tell me cause if they really are demonic then i am gonna feel terribly bad for like'ing them. :(

Well, the Bible tells us that all who sin are of the Devil, so in a very broad sense, I guess she has a point.

But as far as the band, itself, being Satanic, they're not Satanic at all.

But I can see how she might have misunderstood Gene Simmons' character to appear that way.

For the record, their album, "Destroyer" was the first record I ever owned. I was a huge fan back in the 70's.

They're OK. I mean, there are certainly worse bands out there.

As a former professional musician, myself, I respect their showmanship, but I don't like that so much of their stuff is style over substance.

If they didn't have the gimmick of the makeup and costumes, I seriously doubt that they'd have half as many fans.
 
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^ Yeah but his son knew he was demonic thats why he was rejecting him saying satan. And he has blood runnig outta his mouth on stage im pretty sure he is more closer to satan than god i heard he was atheist but you can be an atheist and worship the devil. But IDC if he is demonic because me favorite in the band is Peter Criss. Peter Criss happens to be Catholic and seems more nicer than Gene.
 
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yeah i just think its gene who is demonic.

I grew up listening to KISS. Loved 'em. Still love to listen to the pre-Animalize stuff.

Gene makes no claims to be "demonic". He's a self-described hedonist.

Peter Criss = awful drummer.

Why did I ever like these guys? :scratch:
 
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^ Yeah but his son knew he was demonic thats why he was rejecting him saying satan. And he has blood runnig outta his mouth on stage im pretty sure he is more closer to satan than god i heard he was atheist but you can be an atheist and worship the devil. But IDC if he is demonic because me favorite in the band is Peter Criss. Peter Criss happens to be Catholic and seems more nicer than Gene.

What blood? Oh, you mean the FAKE BLOOD HE PUTS IN HIS MOUTH? You know what that is? Corn syrup and food coloring.
 
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^ Yeah but his son knew he was demonic thats why he was rejecting him saying satan.

:sick: Give me a break. Where did you dig up this little nugget? Do you know his son? Did his son whisper this in your ear?

No, I know what it is: You're a mind-reader! ^_^

And he has blood runnig outta his mouth on stage im pretty sure he is more closer to satan than god

So, if we use your logic here, that would mean that Jesus was "closer to satan than god" when he was being tortured prior to his crucifixion. Wow. Thanks for enlightening all of us. :thumbsup:

(While I realize my loose comparison of Gene Simmons to Jesus is absurd, I submit that, in light of the ridiculousness of the OP's posts, it is spot-on)

i heard he was atheist but you can be an atheist and worship the devil.

Okay...now I'm convinced you're just making each sentence up as you go along... ^_^

You know what I heard?!? I heard you can be a giant plastic lightening bolt and Mr. Snuffleupagus, at the same time!!

me favorite in the band is Peter Criss. Peter Criss happens to be Catholic and seems more nicer than Gene.

I hope he's a better Catholic than he is a drummer...
 
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I dont think they're demonic; the whole "scary" image was a gimmick; one which, I will remind you, the band lost when the 80's came around. I don't listen to the band much, their lyrics are quite sexual and hedonistic, and have a generally negative impact on me. Just pray about it. We have the privilege of a God who speaks to us about our problems, even ones that seem small like whether or not it's okay to listen to KISS. Take advantage of the privilege!
 
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genes demonic type in gene simmons demonic on google see how many things will come up.

I get just as many quantifiable hits when I type in Barney the Purple Dinosaur is the love child of Ronald Reagan and Mr. Spock. What's your point?

You don't appear to be as interested in fact as you are in rumor, but I'll go ahead and post Gene's own words, taken from his autobiography:

". . . misinformation about the band began to spread in the southern Bible Belt states, including a rumor that the name KISS stood for Knights in Satan's Service, and that the four of us were devil worshipers. Ironically, this rumor started as a result of an interview I gave in Circus magazine after our first album; in response to a question, I said that I sometimes wondered what human flesh tastes like. I never wanted to really find out, but I was curious intellectually. Later on, this comment seemed to ignite the whole idea that in some way KISS was aligned with devil worship. When I was asked whether I worshipped the devil, I simply refused to answer for a number of reasons: the first reason, of course, was that it was good press. Let people wonder. The other reason was my complete disregard for the people who were asking. Through the years, whenever religious fanatics accosted me, especially in the southern states, and quoted the Old Testament at me, I would quote them back chapter and verse. They didn't know that I had been a theology major in school. An idiot is an idiot . . . whether he quotes the Bible or not."

I was able to find this quote with just a few minutes of online research. I also discovered that Gene is a Jew; his mother was a concentration camp survivor, and she was his hero.

In any case, the above quote from his book makes it clear that he does not worship the devil. He used that rumor- very effectively- to generate press about the band. Period.

and peter criss is an excellent drummer and so is eric carr (old drummer) and i still love the band and i like gene simmons as a bassist.

I've been a drummer for 19 years now. Even when I was a kid, just starting out, Peter Criss' drumming never inspired me.

Now I know why. It's because his drumming is boring and uninspiring, and his whole approach to the drums is poor. He's not an excellent drummer.

On the other hand, I do agree that Eric Carr was a great fit for KISS.

But, this is completely subjective, and you are entitled to your opinions.
 
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". . . misinformation about the band began to spread in the southern Bible Belt states, including a rumor that the name KISS stood for Knights in Satan's Service, and that the four of us were devil worshipers. Ironically, this rumor started as a result of an interview I gave in Circus magazine after our first album; in response to a question, I said that I sometimes wondered what human flesh tastes like. I never wanted to really find out, but I was curious intellectually. Later on, this comment seemed to ignite the whole idea that in some way KISS was aligned with devil worship. When I was asked whether I worshipped the devil, I simply refused to answer for a number of reasons: the first reason, of course, was that it was good press. Let people wonder. The other reason was my complete disregard for the people who were asking. Through the years, whenever religious fanatics accosted me, especially in the southern states, and quoted the Old Testament at me, I would quote them back chapter and verse. They didn't know that I had been a theology major in school. An idiot is an idiot . . . whether he quotes the Bible or not."


That reminds me of the Glenn Frey quote from Rolling Stone where he refuted the rumors about "Hotel California".

I've been watching the reality show, "Gene Simmons' Family Jewels". There's something about him that makes you not want to like him. To be honest, I tuned into the show hoping that he'd be just as big a jerk as I thought he was.

That didn't happen.

Instead, he turned out to be articulate, charming and seems like a genuinely nice guy. Who knew?

He doesn't smoke or drink or do drugs, his kids are better behaved than average, he's good to his fans, he seems to have a self effacing good humor.

In short, he's the anti-Ozzy.

One of my favorite moments from the show was the episode where his wife enrolled him at a fat camp and he paid one of the bell boys $500 to go into town and buy him a hamburger and a TV.

I was able to find this quote with just a few minutes of online research. I also discovered that Gene is a Jew; his mother was a concentration camp survivor, and she was his hero.

In any case, the above quote from his book makes it clear that he does not worship the devil. He used that rumor- very effectively- to generate press about the band. Period.

Back to the Glenn Frey thing. They were aware of the rumors and thought they were so outrageous that it was funny. The band actually wanted to disspell the rumors because they were tired of addressing it, but it was their management who encouraged them to stay silent about it, in order to drum up publicity.

I've been a drummer for 19 years now. Even when I was a kid, just starting out, Peter Criss' drumming never inspired me.

Now I know why. It's because his drumming is boring and uninspiring, and his whole approach to the drums is poor. He's not an excellent drummer.

Same here.

As a kid, I thought that KISS was the greatest band ever. I just thought they were all musical geniuses.

Around 1981, I grew out of them.

Then, years after I had become a professional musician, myself, I ended up with a bunch of KISS records.

That was when I realized, listening to them with a musician's ear that they just weren't all that good.

Don't get me wrong, it's OK for what it was - '70's glam rock, but they were small fish even in that pond.
 
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Over The Point If They Have Satanic Influence Or Not: They Are Self Declaired "hedonists"...
This Offends More God Than Just Play Music.

We Are On "christian Forums" If You Want To Keep An Appasionate Deffending Of A Band Of Adults (ponds Angel Face Powder Abusers) Whose Acts Don´t Glorify Our Lord Jesus Christ, Ps. Click Out To Another Site.
 
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We Are On "christian Forums" If You Want To Keep An Appasionate Deffending Of A Band Of Adults (ponds Angel Face Powder Abusers) Whose Acts Don´t Glorify Our Lord Jesus Christ, Ps. Click Out To Another Site.
This Part Of The Forum Is Meant For People Who Enjoy Listening To Secular Music. If You Don't Like It, Please Exit Stage Right Back To The Christian Music Part Of The Forum And Quit Bashing What Other People Like. It's Called TROLLING. KThxbye

CJ
 
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This Part Of The Forum Is Meant For People Who Enjoy Listening To Secular Music. If You Don't Like It, Please Exit Stage Right Back To The Christian Music Part Of The Forum And Quit Bashing What Other People Like. It's Called TROLLING. KThxbye

CJ


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TerraSin again.
 
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OK Peter may not have inspired you mister but there are lots and lots of people who look up to him and he is like a drummer God. That is you're opinion that you think he is bad he is a very talented drummer and should be in the hall of fame.


I think that's great that you like Peter Criss, but I've been a musician for a lot of years and have worked with dozens of drummers. I truly do not know one of them who would cite him as any sort of influence or that they look up to him.

Let me put it this way, go take a look at magazines or websites that cater to drummers and percussionists.

One of the things you'll notice is that you very, very rarely, if ever, see his name come up.

Do yourself a favor. Before you go and proclaim Peter Criss as the second coming of Gene Krupa, go and listen to Gene Krupa.

Also, check out Russ Kunkel, Alex Acuna, Billy Kilson, Max Weinberg, Buddy Rich, etc.

What is it about Peter Criss that you believe makes him such a great drummer?
 
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