Kinism

[notreligus]

If you've heard of the Christian Identity Movement or the British Israelism Movement you might be interested in knowing about Kinism. I'd say that all three are related to racism but rarely is this admitted.

Those who follow the Kinism belief system don't dismiss non-whites as those who cannot be saved, but instead this belief places various people groups into what I'd call a "pecking order."

Kinism is a white supremacist interpretation of Christianity. The ideology is a "movement of anti-immigrant, 'Southern heritage' separatists who splintered off from Christian Reconstructionism to advocate that God's intended order is 'loving one's kind' by separating people along 'tribal and ethnic' lines to live in large, extended-family groups."

Kinism - Wikipedia

 

[Albion]

Interesting post.

That's not British Israelism, however.

 

[Dave-W]

I wonder what people like that think about the fact that Our Lord Himself was not white ......

 

[Chesterton]

Lovely. "Kinism". Even the name sounds stupid.

 

[trophy33]

I wonder what people like that think about the fact that Our Lord Himself was not white ......

So, what was He? Black, Asian?

 

[Daniel C]

I wonder what people like that think about the fact that Our Lord Himself was not white ......

What was he?

 

[trophy33]

What was he?

I hope he will not just come with saying "He was Jewish", postulating that Jews are some distinct race

 

[Dave-W]

So, what was He? Black, Asian?

What was he?

Middle eastern Jewish - looking like a dark skinned Arab today.

 

[Dave-W]

I hope he will not just come with saying "He was Jewish", postulating that Jews are some distinct race

Semites are a distinct race. Jews, Arabs, Persians and probably a few more minor ethnicities.

 

[Daniel C]

Middle eastern Jewish - looking like a dark skinned Arab today.

How do we know he was dark skinned? What evidence?

 

[Nithavela]

How do we know he was dark skinned? What evidence?

If nothing else, he propably had a healthy tan from wandering around in Judea.

 

[trophy33]

Middle eastern Jewish - looking like a dark skinned Arab today.

Actually, most of Jews are indistingushable from Europeans. You do not know they are Jews until they tell you.

Also, the fact that He had only mother complicates things, regarding the "middle eastern genetics", He could have blond hair and blue eyes without any problem ;-) We simply cannot know.

 

[Nithavela]

I think this is a brilliant idea. If god didn't want people to be separated, why did he all those giant white lines onto the earth?

 

[Dave-W]

Actually, most of Jews are indistingushable from Europeans. You do not know they are Jews until they tell you.

Also, the fact that He had only mother complicates things, regarding the "middle eastern genetics", He could have blond hair and blue eyes without any problem ;-) We simply cannot know.

The reason most of the Jews you have seen are white is because of intermarriage with Europeans; just like the Sino Jews are indistinguishable from the rest of the Chinese.

The Yemenite Jews have been pretty much genetically isolated since the late first or early 2nd century, (before the post-Bar Kochba dispersion) and they are rather dark skinned.

If our Lord had blue eyes and blonde hair, he would have stood out in that culture like a whole fist full of sore thumbs, and Mary would have been stoned as an adultress.

 

[Dave-W]

this is what Yemenite Jews look like:

 

[Robban]

So, what was He? Black, Asian?

It may help to know that David was "of ruddy complexion,
with red hair, beautiful eyes and handsome to look at."
(Malbim)

Of ruddy complexion...
(1 Samuel 16:12)

 

[Chesterton]

If our Lord had blue eyes and blonde hair, he would have stood out in that culture like a whole fist full of sore thumbs, and Mary would have been stoned as an adultress.

The Jewish Encyclopedia has a lengthy entry on hair. Everything you ever wanted to know...

Maybe slightly off-topic, but there's an interesting sentence in there. Speaking of blonde Jews, it says "Some believe that it is due to climate and environment...while others attribute it to racial intermixture, particularly to the admission of Aryan blood into modern Jewry." Why would they use the word Aryan? I thought the idea of Europeans being Aryan was a mythical Nazi concept. No?

 

[Dave-W]

It may help to know that David was "of ruddy complexion,
with red hair, beautiful eyes and handsome to look at."
(Malbim)

Of ruddy complexion...
(1 Samuel 16:12)

That means his cheeks were flushed. It says NOTHING about his hair or eyes.

 

[Dave-W]

Why would they use the word Aryan? I thought the idea of Europeans being Aryan was a mythical Nazi concept. No?

No.

"Aryan" was around a long time before WW2. But it was hitler who raised the definition to mythical status.

 

[Jonaitis]

What defines race today was very different than how it was defined in biblical times. The white, black, and Asian categories is not even Medieval...