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colleen

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On the today show Hoda goes, "Today is a very special day because.... It's the twelveth night.... the beginning of Mardi Gra. So I'm thinking okay hoping they still mention that it starts today, because it's the Epiphany. Nope. Hoda had no idea that the baby was supposed to represent the baby Jesus, and I'm sure has no idea what the rest of the cake stands for. It was funny to watch Kathy correct her, but it was a tad insane that person that lived in New Orleans for years had no idea about the King Cake other than you eat it.
 

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LOL! I always feel a little conflict- is Epiphany today or Sunday? I guess we could celebrate both days! I hate that they moved Epiphany to Sunday--it messes up our whole 12 Days of Christmas thing...I was hoping to make King Cake--but all of our activities started back up today. So for our 12th Day treat we're going roller skating.

As an aside- how are you feeling?? Any better here in week 15??
 
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I think I'd celebrate both. :)

The zofran helps, but I'm still not feeling great most days, fatigue hasn't went away, etc. Yesterday was pretty bad, but luckily I have a wonderful husband that has been soooo understanding and willing to do everything at home I haven't been able to do, which is well pretty much everything. But, I also count my blessings every day knowing that God has given us a baby. Our little baby is worth all the pain. It definitely brings a different dimension to suffering.

Next week we have an ultrasound, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we get to find out whether we are having a little boy or a little girl :)
 
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I use to think Hoda Kotbe's name sounded like photostatic copy when she was a local anchor women.

She many not have known about the baby Jesus if she wasn't raised here and is not Christan. Isn't she Egyptian? I think she is. It's not really taught, it's something your Catholic parents tell you about.

But anyway, there were no King Cakes in the stores today. i wonder why.
 
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It was just silly, because she was acting like an expert on king cake when Kathy says it's the baby Jesus. Hoda just kept saying are you sure and I don't think so.

I think King Cake is one of those things that is being moved exclusively to Fat Tuesday by grocery stores and bakeries. I know that's when most St. Louis places had them for purchase.
 
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McKenzie's used to be a bakery here that had ones i really like. to bad the health dept shut them down. there are two kinds, one is like a sweet roll, another is more like a cake donut.

when i was growing up we didnlt have all these different flavors, you just had the basic King Cake, now they are so rich and decadent... promotes serious tooth decay. It cracks me up that they are sold during Lent. and King Cake parties are all on Fridays of Lent. if you get the baby, you have to buy the next one for the next Friday.

if anyone goes online to order.. do not order from Gambino's (I know, all these Italian bakeries) i got into a huge argument with those ppl over a incident where my autistic son was discriminated against. We were refused service becuase of his behaviour. explaining that he was autistic didn't seem to matter.

So i vowed to never buy from them again and to make sure every I know will never buy from them either.
 
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believe it or not it was the Baptists who first told me about King Cake. I wasn't raised in any particular faith and after marrying, joined a local Baptist Church. We went to a potluck dinner and had some.....found the baby and were told the tradition. Later, after converting, I started ordering them online......I had gotten one from Gambino's a few years ago, but the one form Randazzo's beat it by a mile...so will never order from them again.
 
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McKenzie's used to be a bakery here that had ones i really like. to bad the health dept shut them down. there are two kinds, one is like a sweet roll, another is more like a cake donut.

when i was growing up we didnlt have all these different flavors, you just had the basic King Cake, now they are so rich and decadent... promotes serious tooth decay. It cracks me up that they are sold during Lent. and King Cake parties are all on Fridays of Lent. if you get the baby, you have to buy the next one for the next Friday.

if anyone goes online to order.. do not order from Gambino's (I know, all these Italian bakeries) i got into a huge argument with those ppl over a incident where my autistic son was discriminated against. We were refused service becuase of his behaviour. explaining that he was autistic didn't seem to matter.

So i vowed to never buy from them again and to make sure every I know will never buy from them either.


I am very curious now what they taste like. Are they chocolate or what?

I didn't know you have a son who has autism. So do I. Sorry for what happened to you.
 
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They taste like a cinnamon or a sweet roll (or even a coffee cake) or a cake donut depending on which one you get. The cake ones are covered in colored sugar crystals, purple green and yellow (gold rather). If it's fresh, it's really good. It's not as rich as the sweet roll one which, again is covered in the colored sugar but is also covered in icing, much like a sweet roll is iced but 10 times heavier. If it's fresh, it's so gooey and very rich and sweet. You can get them plain or in apple, cream cheese, pineapple, strawberry, etc, filled. Some are also chocolate filled but I do not believe I ever tried one like that.

Some bakeries make them better then others. Grocery store chains like Winn Dixie, Wal Mart are so- so. It's the local family owned bakeries that make them really good, like Randazzo's.

To order one online and have it shipped may run about 40 $ give or take for a large. They usually come with trinkets and beads and what not... some come with Cafe De Mont (CDM) chicory flavored coffee... If one can afford that, it's well worth the indulgence. If one is going to order, i suggest ordering early becuase the good bakeries do tend to get booked up early on and stop taking orders.
 
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Here in New England King's cake is unheard of. I actually couldn't figure out the OP at first because I had only heard of it in conjunction with Mardi Gras and had no idea that it was associated with Epiphany.

Perhaps some Southerners that moved to Maine might know about it but I've never seen one in my life.:)
 
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King Cake is associated with Mardi Gras and Mardi Gras is associated with the Epiphany in so much as we eat the King Cake from Kings day until ash Wednesday. Then it's not for sale anymore till next Kings day.

And I misspoke earlier. I was confused obviously. We don't have King cake during lent. We have parties on the Fridays leading up to lent.
 
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What in heavens name are you guys talking about? :o:confused: LOL! I don't watch the today show so I missed it. I also didn't grow up Catholic but Protestant and I grew up out here in Cali, perhaps it's not a big thing out this way. :)

You have to grow up in NO to know about it...

http://www.mardigrasparadeschedule.com/kingcakes/
Mardi Gras King Cakes

New Orleans Famous King Cake

The Mardi Gras season begins on January 6 and continues until Fat Tuesday, the day before Ash Wednesday. During this time of year, one of the most beloved traditions in New Orleans is that of the King Cake.
On the Christian calendar, the twelfth day after Christmas is known as "Epiphany", "Twelfth Night", or "Kings Day." It is the day the gift-bearing Magi visited the baby Jesus, and is celebrated with its own unique rituals.

A king cake (sometimes rendered as kingcake) is a type of cake associated with Carnival traditions. It is popular in Carnival season in the area of the United States which celebrates Carnival ranging from Mobile, Alabama to southeastern Texas, centered on New Orleans. The cakes have a small trinket inside, and the person who gets the piece of cake with the trinket has various privileges and obligations. In the seventeenth century, Louis XVI took part in at least one Twelfth Night festival where a bean or ceramic figure was hidden in the cake, also known as a gateau des Rois (King's cake). The Twelfth Night cake custom is still widely observed in France, where families and friends gather around one of the different cakes served at the cake soirees. In some regions the couronne, made from a brioche dough topped with a fruit festooned sugar glaze, is favored. In Paris and other major cities, a fancier galette filled with frangipane (almond cream paste), prevail. In most areas of France, a tiny plastic king or queen is baked into the galette des rois.

The tradition was brought to the area by colonists from France and Spain.

Related culinary traditions are the tortell of Catalonia, the gâteau des Rois in Provence or the galette des Rois in the northern half of France as well as Greek "Vasilopita."

King cake parties in France refer to the galette de Rois tradition as "pulling the king or queen." The guest who receives a serving with the trinket hidden inside picks a consort. Then the pair, who will host the next King's Day Party, are crowned with the gold and silver paper diadems that adorn the cake. In France, King's Day celebrations end on January 31. France's brioche-like couronne became the forerunner of New Orleans' king cake when Creoles, colonials of French and Spanish descent who settled in New Orleans, adopted the French Twelfth Night cake custome and blended it with the Spanish tradition of mounting a grand ball on Twelfth Night. By the end of the eighteenth century, party-loving colonists had extended the tradition into an entire season of balls, which started on the Twelfth Night and ended on Mardi Gras.


New Orleans King Cake And Parades

It is March 5th, 1878, a rather late Mardi Gras Day. Though Carnival has been celebrated for quite a long time, organized parades are still a novelty. Comus has been active for twenty years, but Rex is a mere six years old. Mardi Gras revelry consists primarily of daytime street masking and nighttime balls.

Rex's parade of modern gods in 1878 was a comic display. Past parades had been followed, despite his objections, by maskers on foot. But, this year what's that we see coming behind Rex? Instead of a ragtag group of motley, miscellaneous maskers, it's another parade! For the first time a new group follows Rex with their agreement. It is the first parade of the Krewe of Phunny Phorty Phellows, spelled with "ph"es, not "f"s.

The first appearance of the PPP was a surprise to the public, and though modest in comparison with future displays, it created a sensation. Fantastic themes depicted by bizarre floats and grotesque maskers thrilled the public after the more pretentious parade headed by the King of Carnival and a live Boeuf Gras corralled on a rolling platform.

For eight years the Phunny Phorty Phellows were the "dessert" of carnival, fostered by leading businessmen of the city. They created an element of fun which made the passing of stupendous Rex seem little more than a necessary evil to be born with patience until the "Big 40" arrived. Satire and plain fun for the sake of fun were so well mixed that the parade was a source of unalloyed enjoyment for young and old. Their mottoes were:

"Honi soit qui mal y pense," or "Evil to them that think evil"
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the best of men."

Its symbol was an owl. Among their innovations was the use of the term "Boss" rather than "King.



Serving the king cake, New Orleans Carnival Parade Punny Phorty Phellows Parade Streetcar party annually held January 6th. Official web site www.phunnyphortyphellows.com/

While on their merry way, the Phellows and other revelers sip champagne, eat King Cake, dance and let fly with the very first beads of the Mardi Gras season. There are two King Cakes used for this phirst night phrolic, one for the female members and one for the gents. Custom dictates that whoever takes the slices containing the plastic Carnival babies are declared Queen and Boss Phellow for the year.


of New Orleans Kings, Queens and Cakes

The king cake of the New Orleans Mardi Gras tradition comes in a number of styles. The most simple, said to be the most traditional, is a ring of twisted bread similar to that used in brioche, topped with icing or sugar, usually coloured purple, green, and gold (the traditional Carnival colors) with food coloring. Some varieties have filling inside, the most common being cream cheese followed by marzipan.

In New Orleans, the first week of January begins King Cake season, a traditional gastronomic prelude to the city's Mardi Gras celebrations. King Cakes in the Mardi Gras colors: purple, green and gold. They first appeared on the cakes after 1872, when the Rex Krewe selected those colors for its opening Mardi Gras parade. The colors come to stand for Mardi Gras and took on symbolic meanings: purple for justice, green for faith, and gold for power. Hidden in each oblong of braided coffee-cake dough is a bean or plastic baby; custom dictates that whoever finds it must give the next King cake party. And one Mardi Gras organization even uses a King cake tradition to choose the queen of its annual ball.

The season for king cake is from Twelfth Night or Epiphany, 6 January, through Mardi Gras Day. Some organizations or groups of friends may have "king cake parties" every week through the Carnival season.

Hundreds of King cake parties are held in New Orleans every year. After the cake is served, the cry "I've got the baby" announces that a party-goer has received the slice of cake containing the baby or bean. That guest is King or Queen of the party, an honor that includes playing host at the following week's King cake festivity, where a successor is chosen in the same manner. King cake enthusiasm also extends to offices, which serve the cakes at coffee breaks, and to parties for children whose birthdays fall during this time (youngsters often find that a thoughtful mother has arranged for a baby to appear in every piece of cake).

For the Phunny Phorty Phellows Parade the person who gets the trinket or baby is declared king or queen of the Parade, sometimes given a paper, plastic, or costume jewelry crown or tiara. There are separate cakes to select the male and female royalty; the one for women is sometimes called a queen cake. The monarch or Big Boss is usually obligated to supply the next king cake or host the next party or both.



King cake parties may be held at the homes of people who live on or near the routes of Carnival parades.

It is a common practice in elementary schools to have King cake parties, usually on a Friday. The person who gets the trinket is required to bring the cake the following week.

King cake parties in New Orleans are documented back to the 18th century.

In some office work places, a variation on this tradition is simplified so that workers share a king cake at lunch or during the day, with the person getting the trinket having to bring the cake for the next work day, with no other ceremony.

Some Krewes select their monarchs via king cake.

the Baby Trinket

The most traditional trinket in the cake is a bean, still seen in some European traditions but rare in U.S. king cakes. It is echoed, however, in some Krewes' use of a gilded bean trinket.



By far the most common trinket from the 1950s on is a small plastic doll of an unclad baby. Many people say this represents the baby Jesus, tied in to the connection with Epiphany. Many people attach no particular religious significance to the cake or trinket. The "baby in the king cake" was said to have become common after a local bakery chain got a large shipment of such plastic baby dolls from Hong Kong very cheaply in the 1950s, and some people say there is little further significance to the baby, but earlier ceramic baby dolls as trinkets are documented in New Orleans back to at least the 1930s.



Running a distant second to babies, a token representing a king wearing a crown is the next most common design of token. Tokens in the form of other figures have also been seen historically, and starting in the 1990s again became more common in the more expensive "gourmet" varieties of king cake.
 
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King Cake is associated with Mardi Gras and Mardi Gras is associated with the Epiphany in so much as we eat the King Cake from Kings day until ash Wednesday. Then it's not for sale anymore till next Kings day.

And I misspoke earlier. I was confused obviously. We don't have King cake during lent. We have parties on the Fridays leading up to lent.

Seriously??!!:confused:

Your supposed to eat one cake for like 6 weeks? Or you buy/make a new King cake each week?

Ok I just read colleen's link about carnival. Very interesting...but King cake for 6 weeks? No wonder it's called FAT tuesday. :)
 
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It's big in St. Louis too. I also believe we have the biggest Mardi Gras celebration next to New Orleans (in the US that is). I was amazed when I lived in other cities that most people had never heard of it, or had not celebrated Mardi Gras. I love King Cake. I think I might try to make my own King Cake for Fat Tuesday this year (still too sick to try scratch baking right now).
 
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