kind of upset

[tturt]

You've misundertood if you're referring to my posts. I'm just stating some of the obstacles we ran into - that's all.

 

[polkaman]

i'm sorry if i chopped everyones heads off, but it is kind of just rubbing me wrong all of this.
i just looked at the church bulletin, which is printed, and it says a church breakfast
in the morning.....i really don't know what to expect....no mention of potluck, or if a
charge or what....i guess im just "supposed to know"....case in point, we have our group
everyone's been in the group for so long, we all know....nobody considers new people.
this past year, there was no mention of the maudy thursday service......i asked a week later
about it if there was going to be one......oh, we had it, i guess we didn't do a very good job
of letting people know.
again, the "regulars" know, but what about the new ?
they have a facebook page, but they don't use it, to me it would be very helpful...i've asked,
and nobody seemed to know who was in charge.
i don't think it's my place to post....and since i don't know the whole story, i might make a boo boo.
maybe i'm just in a foul mood with the drought....but when one wants to be active, or participate,
seems like no interest in doing anything, or to get the word out.

toying with not even going tomarrow.....im just kind of discouraged

 

[Catherineanne]

i have to say this in honesty......from many posts, it seem that doing "something" is wrong.
to what i hear, many are telling me im wrong.....and to be quite honest, alot of these attitudes
are why i never went to church for years...it sounds like it's all about the pastor, or about
the work, of if we should do this or that.......
in my eyes, it sounds like devil is alive and well....

People who disagree with your approach and suggest another way of thinking are evidence that the devil is alive and well? Lord have mercy! No wonder your pastors don't want to know.

Here it is again in the simplest words I can find:

Christians lead by serving, not by having bright ideas. Any fool can have bright ideas and I guarantee that 95% of such foolish ideas are born of pride, arrogance and hubris. The fruit of that hubris is sneering at pastors for not being adequate.

If you want to follow Christ you have to get a bowl of water, a towel, kneel down and start washing other people's feet. And start with the pastor.

 

[Catherineanne]

i'm sorry if i chopped everyones heads off, but it is kind of just rubbing me wrong all of this.
i just looked at the church bulletin, which is printed, and it says a church breakfast
in the morning.....i really don't know what to expect....no mention of potluck, or if a
charge or what....i guess im just "supposed to know"....case in point, we have our group
everyone's been in the group for so long, we all know....nobody considers new people.
this past year, there was no mention of the maudy thursday service......i asked a week later
about it if there was going to be one......oh, we had it, i guess we didn't do a very good job
of letting people know.
again, the "regulars" know, but what about the new ?
they have a facebook page, but they don't use it, to me it would be very helpful...i've asked,
and nobody seemed to know who was in charge.
i don't think it's my place to post....and since i don't know the whole story, i might make a boo boo.
maybe i'm just in a foul mood with the drought....but when one wants to be active, or participate,
seems like no interest in doing anything, or to get the word out.

toying with not even going tomarrow.....im just kind of discouraged

Try looking for what they get right instead of all the thousands of things they get wrong. Are you the person who encourages and affirms; who makes everyone feel good about themselves, or are you the person that causes people to head in the other direction when they see you coming?

 

[polkaman]

Well hello all. Thought I would give an update. I have decided to axe the holiday meal. I strongly
feel it is something that the community needs.....the other holiday the vfw does it and well over
500 people attend. I have helped with it in the past, so have an idea of the work involved, but
i am getting kind of down on the idea.
As for the breakfast and santa claus and the bikes......i think that still might be doable, but having
a snag with the funds. The mini-grants are thru a fraternal organization i belong to. Members can
get mini-grants to fund activites in their communities. Well our local president got wind what i was
planning, and had a fit....that should be used for the lodge members, not your church stuff.
well the rules show he is wrong, and the national HQ told me he was also wrong, but he is giving
me a rough time of it.
I was also going to use another of the mini grants for the senior activities. Really not much cost
involved. Putting up tables and chairs and etc doesn't bother me. One of the churchs i go to put
on a community meal once a month, and i try to get there to at least clean up, wipe down the
tables, put up the chairs, sweep the floors, etc....since i have had some spare time the last couple
of weeks i've helped cook. Pealing stuff, mixing up, doing the drinks, etc....even washing the
dishs !!! plus the other clean up job, so i'm used to the work.
As for the senior activities....one preacher told me that is what the senior center is supposed to
do, well, they are broke all the time, only open a couple a hour around noon for meals
and that's it.
I guess i should say that part of it is personal. my mom is getting up in years. She has worked
very hard all her life...working as a nurse in town, then comming home and working at the
farm. She also worked some odd hours as things happened. She didn't socalize much, because
she was tired, constantly on her feet, and said after all day working with people, she just
wanted to get away for a while. The "ladies" of the area kind of looked down their noses at
her, because she didnt run around with "the gang". Now that she is in her mid to late
70's, she has more time for things. She always enjoye bingo, and went when she could.
She also enjoyed playing cards in the community, but they quit doing that saying no-body
interested. I talked to the senior center people, and they told her to go to the country club,
they play cards out there.......really, my mom never had much to do with that club, and
she is not about to spend $150 a month to be a member of the country club.
people here like to stay in their "clicks", and none have invited her to come over to play
cards and the like.
It does bother me, that she has worked so hard all her life, and there is nothing for her to enjoy.
i think there are others in the same boat. so that is why i would like to see in part the bingo
and card party to start, not only for her, but i do know there are others out there that
would enjoy it.
and the costs would be minium.
i think the one church would welcome it, after all the pastor said it's gods house for the people
of god. The have a couple of multi-purpose rooms, and they are on the ground floor.
so thank you all for your input and ideas. Thank you and if you have any other ideas
i would love to hear them. again, thank you

 

[Catherineanne]

Well hello all. Thought I would give an update. I have decided to axe the holiday meal. I strongly
feel it is something that the community needs.....the other holiday the vfw does it and well over
500 people attend. I have helped with it in the past, so have an idea of the work involved, but
i am getting kind of down on the idea.
As for the breakfast and santa claus and the bikes......i think that still might be doable, but having
a snag with the funds. The mini-grants are thru a fraternal organization i belong to. Members can
get mini-grants to fund activites in their communities. Well our local president got wind what i was
planning, and had a fit....that should be used for the lodge members, not your church stuff.
well the rules show he is wrong, and the national HQ told me he was also wrong, but he is giving
me a rough time of it.
I was also going to use another of the mini grants for the senior activities. Really not much cost
involved. Putting up tables and chairs and etc doesn't bother me. One of the churchs i go to put
on a community meal once a month, and i try to get there to at least clean up, wipe down the
tables, put up the chairs, sweep the floors, etc....since i have had some spare time the last couple
of weeks i've helped cook. Pealing stuff, mixing up, doing the drinks, etc....even washing the
dishs !!! plus the other clean up job, so i'm used to the work.
As for the senior activities....one preacher told me that is what the senior center is supposed to
do, well, they are broke all the time, only open a couple a hour around noon for meals
and that's it.
I guess i should say that part of it is personal. my mom is getting up in years. She has worked
very hard all her life...working as a nurse in town, then comming home and working at the
farm. She also worked some odd hours as things happened. She didn't socalize much, because
she was tired, constantly on her feet, and said after all day working with people, she just
wanted to get away for a while. The "ladies" of the area kind of looked down their noses at
her, because she didnt run around with "the gang". Now that she is in her mid to late
70's, she has more time for things. She always enjoye bingo, and went when she could.
She also enjoyed playing cards in the community, but they quit doing that saying no-body
interested. I talked to the senior center people, and they told her to go to the country club,
they play cards out there.......really, my mom never had much to do with that club, and
she is not about to spend $150 a month to be a member of the country club.
people here like to stay in their "clicks", and none have invited her to come over to play
cards and the like.
It does bother me, that she has worked so hard all her life, and there is nothing for her to enjoy.
i think there are others in the same boat. so that is why i would like to see in part the bingo
and card party to start, not only for her, but i do know there are others out there that
would enjoy it.
and the costs would be minium.
i think the one church would welcome it, after all the pastor said it's gods house for the people
of god. The have a couple of multi-purpose rooms, and they are on the ground floor.
so thank you all for your input and ideas. Thank you and if you have any other ideas
i would love to hear them. again, thank you

You seem to be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

Here we finally get to at least part of what is your actual calling; to look after your mom. I assume either you or she has a home? Start with bingo or other games there every Friday or Saturday (whichever you prefer) with your mother. Forget all those other thousands of people you could help, if only they would let you. Start small.

When we are faithful in small things the Lord will bless us with great things. You clearly already have the vision needed; there is nothing wrong with that. But the focus has to start small, for now.

The problem is your mother needs to be looked after. Your solution was to look after a thousand other people, one of whom would just happen to be your mom. Can you see the disconnect between the two?

See how the bingo goes with your mother, and then in time invite others to join you. Plan some days out and collect some happy memories to look back on in the future. Stop looking for other people to do what your mother did for them; they simply won't. It is up to you.

 

[polkaman]

Well my mom does not need to be "taken care of".......she is nearing 80, and still drives the
grain trucks, sprays thistles, helps work on equipment....
how much fun would it be to play a game of cards with just one person or a bingo game of 1 ?
many of the old people her age thinks its just horrible that she still does that....that they are being
worked to death...i've got news, if she didn't want to do something, she will let you know, and ther
will be no doubt. Thats why they dont associate with her.....they ask her to go to coffee at 10am
and she says no, she has things to do.....and they get mad. In the eve she would like to
do things, but oh no, we have to be in by 7 pm....we're old.

you people just dont get it. everyone is so used to the path of least resistance......don't do anything,
i don't understand you "church" people.........i have not meet so many people not only here
but in 2 churchs that just don't want to do anything.....they can't even do a potluck dinner !!!
no interest.

i was told by some members that they used to have a fun night at least once a month at one
church....potluck, activities, etc........today....oh no, too much work, nobody will go, why even
do it........

i am starting to see why the churchs are declining.......in both churchs they talk about needing more people....how can we get more people, etc.....today you have to have something for the whole
person, not just the sole.

 

[polkaman]

Hello all, the cranky person is back, again.
Come to find out one of the churchs
Have a game night. They do not put
PR out on it. So will be contacting
The person in charge