If you are referring to clever financial inventions such as Credit Default Swaps, then your "golden eggs" are imaginary.
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Killing the Goose that Lays the Golden Eggs
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If you are referring to clever financial inventions such as Credit Default Swaps, then your "golden eggs" are imaginary.
PantsMcFist
Trying to get his head back under the clouds
I have a question about these purported Golden Eggs - what was being done with them?
As far as I can see, there is no greater good being enacted with the power granted by the golden goose - in fact, American driven globalization is becoming a traditional harbinger of bloody revolution in developing nations, who suffered under structural adjustment programs.
What good is a goose if it's golden eggs produce excessive living for few, and suffering, hunger, and thirst for many? Even if the analogy of the goose held, this is one goose that ought to have it's neck wrung.
As far as I can see, there is no greater good being enacted with the power granted by the golden goose - in fact, American driven globalization is becoming a traditional harbinger of bloody revolution in developing nations, who suffered under structural adjustment programs.
What good is a goose if it's golden eggs produce excessive living for few, and suffering, hunger, and thirst for many? Even if the analogy of the goose held, this is one goose that ought to have it's neck wrung.
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Have you any substantial evidence for the existence and activities of the Atheistic Liberal News Media and Entertainment Industry?
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The following discusses how seven resolutions were reported as having being passed relative to The Virginia Stamp Act Resolutions 1765 when in reality only 5 had been passed.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/related/vsa65.htm
How these items made their way north is not known. There is no record anywhere of them, except in the newspapers where they were printed. It is plausible that Henry, George Johnson, or another colleague sent them on before the battle on the floor. Perhaps it was wise that Henry departed when he did, despite the loss of the fifth resolution. He would have expected the House to be dissolved as a result of his resolutions. Had news reached the governor about the seven resolutions, he might have been arrested for treason as well. The seven resolutions, reprinted everywhere, were a wildly effective propaganda tool. The idea that the stuffy old House of Burgesses had produced such a challenge to Great Britain's authority did much to incite similar resolutions in other legislatures. Establishing a Committee of Intercolonial Correspondence.
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Another example of news media abuse.
Clement Moore's Anonymous Screed Against Thomas Jefferson
By Adam Voiland
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/01/17/a-mudslide-aimed-at-jefferson.html
The 1800 election between incumbent John Adams and Thomas Jefferson was a vicious affair in which Federalist attacks on Jefferson's character reached such a fevered pitch that the mudslinging of modern presidential campaigns looks positively genteel in comparison. Not only, Federalists charged, had Jefferson cheated British creditors, obtained property by fraud, and robbed a widow of 10,000 pounds but, if elected: "Murder, robbery, rape, adultery, and incest will all be openly taught and practiced," as the staunchly federalist Connecticut Courant put it. You'd think the attacks could not get much shriller than that. Nevertheless, during the campaign of 1804, an election that pitted Jefferson as the incumbent against the South Carolinian Charles Pinckney, they did. What proceeded made 1804 one of the dirtiest campaigns on record.
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I have watched the control of the news media grow over the years, but only started documenting proof about four years ago.
http://narj-clirus.blogspot.com/
Have you any substantial evidence for the existence and activities of the Atheistic Liberal News Media and Entertainment Industry?
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The following discusses how seven resolutions were reported as having being passed relative to The Virginia Stamp Act Resolutions 1765 when in reality only 5 had been passed.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/related/vsa65.htm
How these items made their way north is not known. There is no record anywhere of them, except in the newspapers where they were printed. It is plausible that Henry, George Johnson, or another colleague sent them on before the battle on the floor. Perhaps it was wise that Henry departed when he did, despite the loss of the fifth resolution. He would have expected the House to be dissolved as a result of his resolutions. Had news reached the governor about the seven resolutions, he might have been arrested for treason as well. The seven resolutions, reprinted everywhere, were a wildly effective propaganda tool. The idea that the stuffy old House of Burgesses had produced such a challenge to Great Britain's authority did much to incite similar resolutions in other legislatures. Establishing a Committee of Intercolonial Correspondence.
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Another example of news media abuse.
Clement Moore's Anonymous Screed Against Thomas Jefferson
By Adam Voiland
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/01/17/a-mudslide-aimed-at-jefferson.html
The 1800 election between incumbent John Adams and Thomas Jefferson was a vicious affair in which Federalist attacks on Jefferson's character reached such a fevered pitch that the mudslinging of modern presidential campaigns looks positively genteel in comparison. Not only, Federalists charged, had Jefferson cheated British creditors, obtained property by fraud, and robbed a widow of 10,000 pounds but, if elected: "Murder, robbery, rape, adultery, and incest will all be openly taught and practiced," as the staunchly federalist Connecticut Courant put it. You'd think the attacks could not get much shriller than that. Nevertheless, during the campaign of 1804, an election that pitted Jefferson as the incumbent against the South Carolinian Charles Pinckney, they did. What proceeded made 1804 one of the dirtiest campaigns on record.
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I have watched the control of the news media grow over the years, but only started documenting proof about four years ago.
http://narj-clirus.blogspot.com/
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WalksWithChrist
Seeking God's Will
The news media in most of its incarnations is run by the almighty dollar.
That's really all you need to know.
That's really all you need to know.
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If you are referring to clever financial inventions such as Credit Default Swaps, then your "golden eggs" are imaginary.
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Good point. Some of those golden eggs may have been brown colored. Even the rich folks get pulled into scams sometimes.
What I was thinking about was things like credit cards, stock exchanges, etc. all of which can be good, but require great wisdom in their use, because a weak person can get eaten alive by the hope of a free meal, or the expectation of their not getting their fair share.
Don't you just love the scam, "You deserve it".
People cannot get rich from selling pornography if there are no buyers for the pornography.
Do you believe Christians are less susceptible to scams?
If you are referring to clever financial inventions such as Credit Default Swaps, then your "golden eggs" are imaginary.
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Good point. Some of those golden eggs may have been brown colored. Even the rich folks get pulled into scams sometimes.
What I was thinking about was things like credit cards, stock exchanges, etc. all of which can be good, but require great wisdom in their use, because a weak person can get eaten alive by the hope of a free meal, or the expectation of their not getting their fair share.
Don't you just love the scam, "You deserve it".
People cannot get rich from selling pornography if there are no buyers for the pornography.
Do you believe Christians are less susceptible to scams?
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PantsMcFist
Trying to get his head back under the clouds
I'm sure this will illicit a whole host of hilarious responses involving irony, but no, I don't.
I think the success of prosperity doctrine shows that Christians are just as easily fooled as anyone. In fact, depending on the denominational doctrine you subscribe to, I would guess that those who follow denominations know for literal interpretation (almost completely limited to Fowler's stages 1-3) are MORE susceptible. Chances are if you have rationalized your faith (stage 4), you are already a critical thinker.
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Yes, CNN is so biased. In a panel after a story about an atheist family being chased out of a town. They only had Christians on this panel, spouting out anti-atheist rhetoric.
Clearly CNN has an atheist bias.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPHnXrU5JzU&feature=related
Clearly CNN has an atheist bias.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPHnXrU5JzU&feature=related
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Discrimination Against Atheists
The concept that seemed to presented in the CNN clip was that there should be no discrimination against Atheists because they have a core set of ideas, and have a right to their opinion equal to all other people.
Well the KKK has a core set of ideas, but America rejected and discriminated against the KKK.
Some are going to come back and say the KKK killed people, but really only a very few did the killings, so it is wrong to characterize the whole KKK by the actions of a few.
I very strongly believe in discrimination that separates good from evil. I do not believe in discrimination for any other reason than good and evil. Even good organizations need to discriminate between good and evil to prevent the good organization as being characterized by the small evil part.
I do not believe blacks should be discriminated against, but the Village Family Concept that is very prevalent in the black community is hurting the black reputation. The only group that can change back to the Christian Family Concept is the black community itself. Outside change is impossible. I believe the Village Family Concept is evil because the fathers do not take active involvement in raising their children. The Village Family Concept is that the village is responsible for the children instead of the parents. This concept came from Africa and the evil of this concept is obvious from the tribalism and wars in Africa. Hillary Clinton and Oparah both think the Village Family Concept is great.
I believe Atheist should be discriminated against. A major component of the Atheistic movement in America are homosexuals and the disease of AIDS associated with homosexuality the is killing over 2 million people per year with no cure in sight. Homosexuality is very obviously evil.
I believe evil should be defined as anything that the Bible says is evil and that physical reality shows leads to disease, death and destruction. When the determination that something is evil (KKK) has been made, then it should be discriminated against by both the government and all the people.
Discrimination by the people should not be violence, but rather avoidance/rejection, but the government has the right to execute evil such as the case of murders.
It is very unfortunate that the Civil Rights movement was good in the sense it removed racial, ethnic, etc. discrimination, but evil people are using civil rights concepts to eliminate discrimination of themselves. A very definite part of the evil people eliminating discrimination of themselves is to destroy Christianity by legalizing things that are defined in the Bible as evil such as pornography, abortion and homosexuality.
I believe the democratic party should be discriminated against because they accept/advocate a lot of the evil that should be discriminated against.
The concept that seemed to presented in the CNN clip was that there should be no discrimination against Atheists because they have a core set of ideas, and have a right to their opinion equal to all other people.
Well the KKK has a core set of ideas, but America rejected and discriminated against the KKK.
Some are going to come back and say the KKK killed people, but really only a very few did the killings, so it is wrong to characterize the whole KKK by the actions of a few.
I very strongly believe in discrimination that separates good from evil. I do not believe in discrimination for any other reason than good and evil. Even good organizations need to discriminate between good and evil to prevent the good organization as being characterized by the small evil part.
I do not believe blacks should be discriminated against, but the Village Family Concept that is very prevalent in the black community is hurting the black reputation. The only group that can change back to the Christian Family Concept is the black community itself. Outside change is impossible. I believe the Village Family Concept is evil because the fathers do not take active involvement in raising their children. The Village Family Concept is that the village is responsible for the children instead of the parents. This concept came from Africa and the evil of this concept is obvious from the tribalism and wars in Africa. Hillary Clinton and Oparah both think the Village Family Concept is great.
I believe Atheist should be discriminated against. A major component of the Atheistic movement in America are homosexuals and the disease of AIDS associated with homosexuality the is killing over 2 million people per year with no cure in sight. Homosexuality is very obviously evil.
I believe evil should be defined as anything that the Bible says is evil and that physical reality shows leads to disease, death and destruction. When the determination that something is evil (KKK) has been made, then it should be discriminated against by both the government and all the people.
Discrimination by the people should not be violence, but rather avoidance/rejection, but the government has the right to execute evil such as the case of murders.
It is very unfortunate that the Civil Rights movement was good in the sense it removed racial, ethnic, etc. discrimination, but evil people are using civil rights concepts to eliminate discrimination of themselves. A very definite part of the evil people eliminating discrimination of themselves is to destroy Christianity by legalizing things that are defined in the Bible as evil such as pornography, abortion and homosexuality.
I believe the democratic party should be discriminated against because they accept/advocate a lot of the evil that should be discriminated against.
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Originally Posted by clirus
Do you believe Christians are less susceptible to scams?
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I'm sure this will illicit a whole host of hilarious responses involving irony, but no, I don't.
I think the success of prosperity doctrine shows that Christians are just as easily fooled as anyone. In fact, depending on the denominational doctrine you subscribe to, I would guess that those who follow denominations know for literal interpretation (almost completely limited to Fowler's stages 1-3) are MORE susceptible. Chances are if you have rationalized your faith (stage 4), you are already a critical thinker.
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I believe God and the Bible are a one on one experience. Church is good to hear different ideas expressed, but all things need to be compared to the cornerstone of the Bible. I believe the only valid cornerstone is the KJV of the Bible. The world is full of ideas that require great wisdom to determine which are good and which are evil.
I believe the reason people are susceptible to scans is because they take their eyes off the Lord or don't personally evaluate everything relative to the Bible. It would seem there are a lot that do take their eyes off the Lord, however among the people I know, the Bible has been a very positive influence in their lives.
It is amazing what people can rationalize.
The best sermon I ever heard (except for the one that led to my accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and committing to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible) was one that discussed the two points; 1) Not all love is good love, and 2) God will not make an exception for anyone. A lot of Christians think they can follow most of God's Law, but that God will grant an exception for the few sins that the Christian clings to.
Go get your Bible and see what it says, and please, please check what I say against the Bible.
Do you believe Christians are less susceptible to scams?
PantsMcFist quote
I'm sure this will illicit a whole host of hilarious responses involving irony, but no, I don't.
I think the success of prosperity doctrine shows that Christians are just as easily fooled as anyone. In fact, depending on the denominational doctrine you subscribe to, I would guess that those who follow denominations know for literal interpretation (almost completely limited to Fowler's stages 1-3) are MORE susceptible. Chances are if you have rationalized your faith (stage 4), you are already a critical thinker.
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I believe God and the Bible are a one on one experience. Church is good to hear different ideas expressed, but all things need to be compared to the cornerstone of the Bible. I believe the only valid cornerstone is the KJV of the Bible. The world is full of ideas that require great wisdom to determine which are good and which are evil.
I believe the reason people are susceptible to scans is because they take their eyes off the Lord or don't personally evaluate everything relative to the Bible. It would seem there are a lot that do take their eyes off the Lord, however among the people I know, the Bible has been a very positive influence in their lives.
It is amazing what people can rationalize.
The best sermon I ever heard (except for the one that led to my accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and committing to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible) was one that discussed the two points; 1) Not all love is good love, and 2) God will not make an exception for anyone. A lot of Christians think they can follow most of God's Law, but that God will grant an exception for the few sins that the Christian clings to.
Go get your Bible and see what it says, and please, please check what I say against the Bible.
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Archaeopteryx
Wanderer
It is equally amazing what people can accept on the basis of blind faith, or a misinterpretation of their own religious texts.
That was done in the previous thread where you claimed that Christians should only extend charity to the orphans and widows of fellow Christians. Checking your claim against the premises retained in the Bible and your claim was proven false, which you have not yet admitted, save for having taken the euphemism of 'agreeing to disagree'.
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PantsMcFist
Trying to get his head back under the clouds
So all that talk of grace and forgiveness and our sins being washed in the blood of Christ was wishful thinking on the part of the biblical narrator? I find it far more likely that you subscribe to a heretical doctrine, expecially considering the fact that the KJV(!!!!) is the most inspired word of God in your eyes. Don't you think the original hebrew or Greek would be a little closer to the real thing?
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