Killing The Clone

[arizona_sunshine]

Second of all:

I was stating it to the general population

All right:

But if it's the same person, why should it matter?

Then I'll ask again, why should what matter? Your question is still unclear.

Third of all:

I wouldn't kill my twin

Then you would not kill a clone. What is your position on abortion? Stem cell research?

Fourth of All:

If a person commits a crime, would they kill both you and the clone? Since they're technically the same person? Or do you believe that it's the only that single entity's fault?

Who are "they" who will be killing people/clones? Are you referencing the death penalty? A person and their hypothetical clone are two separate entities. There is no reason for a clone to be held responsible for the 'original person's' (for lack of a better term) actions, likewise there is no reason for the 'original person' to be held responsible for their clones actions. Hopefully since we have hypothetical clones we have hypothetical means to tell one from the other, for the purposes of the justice system.

 

[Jetgirl]

This is hypothetical, as no humans have been cloned yet.

But I was wondering if you would have a problem killing a human clone.

Hypothetically speaking, ok? Let's not get into this big "let's not clone in the first place" discussion. Let's just assume, and use our imaginations.

It would be just as criminal and wrong as killing someone's twin sibling, as that's what clones are.

 

[Jetgirl]

But if it's the same person, why should it matter?

Ah, GCD, you've been watching too many sci-fi moves.

A clone is not the same person. It is a human with identical DNA to another human.... just like twins, triplets, etc..

If one of a pair of twins commited murder, would you jail them both?

 

[Lifesaver]

Yes, a clone is a human being; that is, the composite of an animated body and a rational soul.

 

[Aimee30]

To perhaps add to what is above stated, to Christians it would be just like another human being--it has the ability to go to God when it dies as God is the one who metes out souls and spirits.
Which, by the way, means that the clones will probably have different personalities and never be exactly the same as the original--so clones will basically be only near exact duplicates on the outside (I say near because there is always room for deformities), but most likely never exactly the same as a person. So this, would make me want to preserve them more, because they still will be somewhat unique of each other in that way.
They are fellow human beings and deserve the right to live.

 

[Alice the Sister]

Thanks...

I used to think that a clone wouldn't really be a twin. Now I can see what you guys mean.

Now the question is:


Would the clone really have a soul?

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[Jetgirl]

I used to think that a clone would really be a twin.

Are you being deliberatly obtuse, or did you make a misstatement above?

Now the question is:


Would the clone really have a soul?

I think it was argued and decided about 100 years ago that both conjoined and separate twins both possess an individual soul.

Anyone have a reference?

 

[Alice the Sister]

it was an accident. I thought they were different, now I know they're the same.

 

[savvy]

it was an accident. I thought they were different, now I know they're the same.

Que??
You mean, you thought clones were the same person, but now you know they are different. Right?
They are (hypothetically) two separate, individual people with different personalities and separate, individual souls. They are basically identical twins with an age gap, and are human. So of course it would be wrong to murder them.

 

[CrownCaster]

This is hypothetical, as no humans have been cloned yet.

But I was wondering if you would have a problem killing a human clone.

Hypothetically speaking, ok? Let's not get into this big "let's not clone in the first place" discussion. Let's just assume, and use our imaginations.

I absolutely would. While we may be able to manipulate the gene pool, God has to put the spirit in and give it life. To kill a clone would be the same as killing anyone else.

 

[HouseApe]

Thanks...

I used to think that a clone wouldn't really be a twin. Now I can see what you guys mean.

Now the question is:


Would the clone really have a soul?

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No, but then neither does anyone else.

 

[CrownCaster]

No, but then neither does anyone else.

Speak for yourself. I have a soul and it has been redeemed. I also have the Spirit of God living in me.

 

[Soc12]

No, but then neither does anyone else.

I'm with CrownCaster, I know that I have a sould, no matter how souless other people can be.

 

[tcampen]

This is hypothetical, as no humans have been cloned yet.

But I was wondering if you would have a problem killing a human clone.

Hypothetically speaking, ok? Let's not get into this big "let's not clone in the first place" discussion. Let's just assume, and use our imaginations.

Identical twins are essentially clones of eachother. They are from the same exact DNA, but we don't consider them just one person. Each is a distinct individual. Clones are no different. A human clone would be distinct person regardless of the DNA source, and an unlawful killing of a person is still going to be unlawful.