Did God make a mistake in who should be allowed on the Ark? surely he didn't want the corrupted?
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God did this? Book chapter verse please.
If you read the story that way it makes no sense. Why did the animals have to die? "All flesh was corrupted." The only one left human, was Noah. Apparently at least some from his family was also corrupted, because we see Nephilim spring back up.
well personally I think drowning perhaps millions of babies via the Noah story is enough of an example to use to set the stage of God vs babies/children/innocents etc. We don't need other stories to prove God is either a mass murderer in Noah's time or we have to assume God was justified in death of most of mankind by a flood. One would have to most likely choose one of the two answers as I cannot think of any other reasonably logical answer.You'll notice my responses have been carefully gauged to that expectation. If he really wants to seek answers, my responses will help him tremendously. If he either expects to be spoon-fed (which never helps an adult) or just argue for it's own sake ... pffft
Again, this is VERY relevant tot eh OP's concerns. In the first scenario, it was only little children that were spared; those who couldn't possibly be carrying on Nephilim DNA, to be anachronistic about it. In the "dashing little ones against the rocks," it is indeed not God Himself doing it, and it is actually a Spiritual application; again, taking up our own Cross, and following Him!
(Which does not mean it had no literal, physical, or historical application)
Well i am in good company for how can you know?What were the circumstances
Tell me the circumstances that would make it right
, and what was the point of the story?
If you need to make a point by killing children then possibly it's not a point worth making.
You don't know, so what place do you have to opine?
Did God make a mistake in who should be allowed on the Ark? surely he didn't want the corrupted?
And who would you have judge more correctly than God himself? If you do not first accept Christianity's definition of God then us trying to explain anything to you is an exercise in futility because by rejecting God as a perfect Judge then you are using a strawman. A perfect God does not need to let people defend themselves because he will not judge incorrectly in the first place.Surely to be judged correctly you should have the opportunity to defend yourself.
If your Government judged you in your absence then sentenced you to death, for you don't know what, would you consider this as being judged fairly?
Well i am in good company for how can you know?
I wrote: G-d is not about to go killing people, outside of His Judgment.
To which you responded:
Prove it.
But do try to prove something other than what you don't understand, ok?
This is reinforced in Revelation. What makes you think God is love, and not wrath? Are you another one that's going to go on the misguided "omnibenevolent" binge?
Reality - deal with it.
Hi Hentenza
But there are other instances, not restricted to this one, that are not visions.
If god had killed the children or other places in the bible where he did, do you support this?
People die. It's part of life.
Can this be moved to somewhere debating is allowed please?
If God isn't benevolent is he malevolent?
The event can be both historic, and Prophetic. Many things in the Bible have layers of meaning.
Your query is THE most basic element of Christianity:
(Romans 11:22) "Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."
The guy that saved the Ark of God falling over being killed. God's goodness? if not why was he cut off?
What, you thought He was joking when Jesus said "repent?"
You're talking about the flood. There were no innocent bystanders. Even some of those saved, were corrupt and should've been Judged.
So God aided andf abetted the corrupt?
The whole point here is God WILL Judge us, and it is real. Even when we don't like it. Not a difficult concept!
No i don't believe he said it because it would be hard with him not existing n'that
The OP seems more argumentative and combative than seeking answers. I don't recall the exact verse but in Samuel God ordered them to kill a group of people and not even let an animal survive it, other places in the bible I think hosea mention killing babies but it appears to be more prophetic and not necessarily pointing to God as who it actioning on it directly.
God either forgives everything on the cross.... or nothing because to him one sin or 100 sins equals banishment from heaven. God forgave Saul of Tarsus who murdered Christians. If Saddam and Osama had repented and accepted Jesus they would be saved otherwise God is a liar. Shocking isn't it that God saves the worst there is?
There are lots of good people I know and respect and wish I was more like, but they aren't perfect and therefore cannot make the best role models, or at least that's how I see it. They also can't save me or take me to heaven like Jesus promises.
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