Keyes: Cheney's Gay Daughter Is a Sinner.

[Johnboy60]

Keyes: Cheney's Gay Daughter Is a Sinner

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/st...ff/story/0001/20040901/1145500240.htm&sc=1131


Robert.

 

[tulc]

tulc(Obama in '04!)

 

[armed2010]

Hahaha, and to think this guy is running against Obama.

 

[InnerPhyre]

We are all sinners.

 

[RJ1]

Keyes: Cheney's Gay Daughter Is a Sinner

So is Keyes. So are all of us. I wish more people would worry about their own sins and not everyone else's.

 

[SirKenin]

Well, he's right about two things. She is a sinner. We all are. She's also a hedonist. Hedonism is defined as "Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses".

So, I'm not sure what the problem is? Perhaps his delivery? At least he didn't lie. I'm a sinner too. So is he.

 

[Law of Loud]

Well, he's right about two things. She is a sinner. We all are. She's also a hedonist. Hedonism is defined as "Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses".

So, I'm not sure what the problem is? Perhaps his delivery? At least he didn't lie. I'm a sinner too. So is he.

I hardly believe you are qualified to judge here as a hedonist Dr. Feelgood. If you are going to take her homosexual tendencies to mean a "Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses", then I insist that all men and women are guilty of this charge. If you are going to label something so trivial as that (especially when it is likely that you have little knowledge of whether she actually practices homosexuality), as hedonistic, then I am hedonistic, and almost all other humans are hedonistic in our heterosexuality.

The problem with what Keyes said is that he didn't state that everybody was a sinner. He very specifically targeted Cheney's daughter, as if that is the worst of all sins. God forgive me if I am wrong, but I am saying that it is no greater than any other.

 

[tulc]

Well, he's right about two things. She is a sinner. We all are. She's also a hedonist. Hedonism is defined as "Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses".

How does he know she is a hedonist though? Simply because she is gay makes her a hedonist?
tulc(who thinks the Republicans of Illinois should have stuck with the candidate they asked after Ditka said no. But I guess Spongebob Squarepants said he was too busy with his show to run, so they got Keyes instead)

 

[Chi_Cygni]

Ironic that someone with the name dr.feelgood is complaining about hedonists. Glasshouses my friend, glasshouses.

 

[SirKenin]

Ironic that someone with the name dr.feelgood is complaining about hedonists. Glasshouses my friend, glasshouses.

Perhaps before picking on my name it would have helped to establish where the name comes from. Then maybe you wouldn't look as silly as you do to me right about now.

 

[Kaan]

Well, he's right about two things. She is a sinner. We all are. She's also a hedonist. Hedonism is defined as "Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses".

And you know this how? I pray you're not so misguided as to assume she's a hedonist simply because she's gay. Not only would that be hypocritical, but just flat out ignorant.

 

[SirKenin]

How does he know she is a hedonist though? Simply because she is gay makes her a hedonist?

The way I see it, and I can't answer for this other guy as I have NO idea what's going through his head, acting on homosexual tendencies is putting your flesh first, before the Bible. So, in that case, hedonism would be accurate.

And cudos on the Spongebob comment.. That was hilarious

 

[Chi_Cygni]

Perhaps before picking on my name it would have helped to establish where the name comes from. Then maybe you wouldn't look as silly as you do to me right about now.

LOL - now you're not going to tell me you're a Motley Crue fan are you? That's even worse.

 

[Kaan]

The way I see it, and I can't answer for this other guy as I have NO idea what's going through his head, acting on homosexual tendencies is putting your flesh first, before the Bible. So, in that case, hedonism would be accurate.

And my fears have been proven true. She is not a hedoist simply because she's gay. If that were true, then you're just as much a hedoist as she is. Everytime you have sex, you're satifying your physical pleasures, making you just as much a hedoist as her.

 

[SirKenin]

The problem with what Keyes said is that he didn't state that everybody was a sinner. He very specifically targeted Cheney's daughter, as if that is the worst of all sins. God forgive me if I am wrong, but I am saying that it is no greater than any other.

The rest of your post was answered in my address to tulc. However, this I wanted to comment on specifically. I completely agree with what it is you're trying to say here. You should not single one person out and becry that they are a sinner. All of us are equally sinful.

 

[SirKenin]

And my fears have been proven true. She is not a hedoist simply because she's gay. If that were true, then you're just as much a hedoist as she is. Everytime you have sex, you're satifying your physical pleasures, making you just as much a hedoist as her.

Your response makes me think you conveniently overlooked half of what I said. Heterosexuality is different. Acting on heterosexual tendencies is not operating in contravention of the provisions of the Bible.

My point to tulc stands.

 

[SirKenin]

LOL - now you're not going to tell me you're a Motley Crue fan are you? That's even worse.

I'm not going to tell you anything, actually. I'm just going to sit here and let you look silly. I find that far more comical.

 

[Chi_Cygni]

I truly doubt you could make anyone seem silly. All I see is the name drfeelgood and you yelling about hedonism. It seems such a nice irony. And it has obviously hit a nerve with you even though I was just being humourous.

 

[Kaan]

Your response makes me think you conveniently overlooked half of what I said. Heterosexuality is different. Acting on heterosexual tendencies is not operating in contravention of the provisions of the Bible.

Heterosexuality and homosexuality are different sides of the same thing. They are both inherently harmless (and if you disagree with that, I dare you to show me one risk in homosexuality that isn't a risk with heterosexuality) sexual oreintations.

And whether or not something is in or out of tune with the Bible has absolutely nothing to do with hedonism. Masturbation is a good example of hedonism. Homosexuality, like heterosexual is not inherently hedonistic.

 

[draper]

Acting on heterosexual tendencies is not operating in contravention of the provisions of the Bible.

And I assume you mean hetersexual tendencies acted on during marriage, right?