Kent Hovind

[JustMeSee]

These are just my opinions. Im just a mere mortal who knows absolutly nothing.

I strongly suspect you are also a 'poe', someone who posts as an ultra-fundamentalist (convincingly), but is not a fundamentalist.

Science does not operate on simple opinions.

 

[46AND2]

So when you do your lab experiments you actual see evolution occurring infront of your eyes, let's say on a species of some sort?

I'm just curious.

Amusing that this is all you took out of my post. But yes. For an example, research the Dr. Richard Lenski long term E. coli experiment.

E. coli long-term evolution experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JustMeSee]

He didn't beleive there was a God for sometime until one of his Physics professors couldnt answer a question he had. Cant recall what it was, but he did say that his professor told him they don't have all the answers to all questions. You see science is limited, just like human beings. There is only so far we can go.

Yet, scientists continue to answer old and new questions.
What are the limits on human knowledge and scientific discoveries?
Yes, scientists don't have all the answers to every question, nor do they know every question yet to be answered.

 

[JustMeSee]

Honestly, I could care less. I'm a sociology major so I don't know the exacts about natural science because it's pretty boring to me.

I was just reading about these theories and found out how they influence us as a society.

Just because you throw in some $*{ *}!<£\ signs to confuse me probably won't change my mind.

I am ignorant I guess when it comes to this type of science, but I won't be as ignorant to say it is 100% truth.

That was actually mathematics. Anyone with a college algebra and statistics class would understand that probability equation.

 

[JustMeSee]

I meant that from a sociological perspective. I've already stated I don't know much about natural sciences.

Geezzzz you guys make me feel so stupid lol. I'm so worthless.

Look, while I'm in class and these professors feed me all these lies that gender is a social construct, and homosexualty is natural I have to think what other lies are being told by "science".

Unsure of how much you know of the social sciences.

 

[Tomk80]

That was actually mathematics. Anyone with a college algebra and statistics class would understand that probability equation.

One of the major problems of sociology is that it produces to many graduates who have no understanding of mathematics and statistics. Sociologists should really work on their teaching programs so their students at least have some rudimentary understanding of it.

Although not recognizing mathematical symbols is quite stupid (not just ignorant, stupid).

 

[JustMeSee]

So since we see it in nature that means its correct? I know homosexuality has brought so much good to human kind.

Lower life expectany
Aids
Mental illness
Substance abuse
.....

Alan Turing
Alan Turing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He was paramount in the computers used today.

 

[Papias]

AP26 wrote:

Originally Posted by Papias

Did you know that the majority of those scientists who established evolution as a fact were Christians? Two of the most prominent (Sedgewick and Mendel) were respectively a Protestant minister and a Catholic priest.

It's no surprise that today the majority of those who support evolution are Christians, not atheists. Evolution isn't your enemy any more than heliocentrism, gravity, and germ theories are.

Papias

How can you beleive in evolution and the Bible? If you beleive in evolution then what about Genesis?
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The same way you can believe that we don't live under a clear, hard, dome, on a flat, immovable earth. You see all those verses in Genesis and elsewhere as symbolic or figures of speech, just as millions of Christians see the Genesis creation myth.

Bible tells us that the earth is flat like a piece of clay stamped under a seal (Job 38:13-14), that it has edges as only a flat plane would (Job 38:13-14,.Psa 19:4), that it is a circular disk (Isa 40:22), and that its entire surface can be seen from a high tree (Dan 4:10-11) or mountain (Matt 4:8), which is impossible for a sphere, but possible for a flat disk. Taken literally, as the YECs insist we do, any one of these passages shows a flat earth. Taken together, they are even more clear.

We live in a Planetarium-
The Bible describes the sky (firmament -- literally "metal flattened by a hammer"- Gen 1:6-8, 1:14-17) as a solid dome, like a tent (Isa 40:22, Psa 19:4, 104:2), that is arched over the surface of the earth. It also has windows to let rain/snow in (Gen 7:11, 8:2, Deut 28:12, 2 Kings 7:2, Job 37:18, Mal 3:10, Rev 4:1). Ezekiel 1:22 and Job 37:18 even tell us that it's hard like bronze and sparkles like ice, that God walks on it (Job 22:14) and can be removed (Rev 6:14). Taken literally, as the YECs insist we do, these verses show a solid sky dome above us. And again, many Christians in history have interpreted it as such.

Another example, Ex 19:4 says that the Jews were flown out of Egypt using eagles. You know that's not true - it's a figure of speech. It's even God directly talking there, too.

You already realize that sections of the Word of God are not meant to be taken literally. You just don't yet realize that the creation story in Genesis is not meant to be taken literally. Many others here were also taught to deny evolution, from con artists like Kent Hovind. Many of the Christians here will tell you how they grew older and realized they'd been had,and that Christianity has as much to fear from evolution as it does from the idea that the earth goes around the sun, or that diseases are caused by germs.

Papias


P. S. your quoted paragraph recently didn't say who said it, and when. It sounds like some crackpot who doesn't understand science.

 

[Rilke's Granddaughter]

Lol. Thanks. I get to read your explanation.

Fine. I will ignore your questions.

 

[Strathos]

Kent Hovind is the kind of man who claims to be Christian but cares more about money than God.

Matthew 6:24

 

[JustMeSee]

Kent Hovind vs Ali G ; ali g proves evolution is real - YouTube

 

[JustMeSee]

100 reasons why evolution is so stupid. - YouTube

 

[AV1611VET]

Kent Hovind vs Ali G ; ali g proves evolution is real - YouTube

QV 02:00-02:05, where that guy sitting next to Mr. Hovind says 'Homo sapiens' is from the Greek.

I wish [my fellow] creationists would knock that stuff off and stop agreeing with evolutionists in everything ... it makes us look bad.

 

[AV1611VET]

100 reasons why evolution is so stupid. - YouTube

tl;dl

 

[JustMeSee]

tl;dl

All of the videos I found were long. You can probably jump to any point and pick up what he is saying.

 

[Illuminaughty]

He seems like he is trying to do a Poe comedy skit about science. His "best" arguments are all arguments from incredulity.

 

[Rilke's Granddaughter]

Feel free to expound. You seem to think pretty highly of your analytic skills. Why not give us a little demo.

Sure. This one was trivial.

"to say, therefore, that the theory of evolution is scientific is to deprive the word scientific of its meaning, for scientific knowledge has to do with observation and experiment. So-called knowledge of a thing like evolution comes neither by observation or experiment and therefore can not be called scientific. Anyone who is not a fool should know this"

This is, by the way, a quote from a fundamentalist theist named David Breese in a very poor attempt to refute Darwin. Unfortunately, Breese isn't a scientist, and understands nothing about how science works.

"to say, therefore, that the theory of evolution is scientific is to deprive the word scientific of its meaning, for scientific knowledge has to do with observation and experiment.

Scientific knowledge is, indeed, the product of systematic application of observation, hypothesis, experiment, and analysis. (Wash, rinse, and repeat.) His claim is false in that he leaves out hypothesis and theory completely.

So-called knowledge of a thing like evolution comes neither by observation or experiment and therefore can not be called scientific.

And here he moves from the confused and ignorant to the utterly false. Of course evolution is based on observation and experiment. Evolution is based directly on the observation of present biological diversity, and our indirectly by means of genetics and fossils of past biological diversity. It was those very observations that Darwin developed his initial theory to explain.

Why are species living on the shores of lakes more closely related to species living nearby, than those living on the shores of lakes elsewhere? Why do species resemble each other? Why do we have fossils of creatures that don't appear to exist? Why do these fossils resemble extant creatures less and less the deeper we find them buried?

All observations.

Now, many people are confused about "experiment"; they seem to have the idea that experiments are things conducted wholly in the laboratory involving test tubes, pipettes, and centrifuges. And indeed, we have such experiments (look up Lenski for a fascinating example of evolution in action.) The research that led us to find Tiktaalik in just the right spot and fossil layer was an experiment. The research I do on glial cell formation consists of experiments in evolution.

Anyone who is not a fool should know this.

Apparently, David Breese is fond of calling people names when they argue from a position of knowledge, not ignorance.


So you can see that Breese's entire assertion is false.

 

[chilehed]

Kent Hovind vs Ali G ; ali g proves evolution is real - YouTube

"Yeah, a lot of them is very talented..."
ROTFLMAO!!!! What a scream! It's as good as some of the Spinal Tap interviews.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Yeah, the interviewer really raises the bar, doesn't he?

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

That may have came off wrong . I was just trying to make a point that homosexualty isnt a healthy life style....... like science has told us.

I sympothize with everyone that is sick, but don't try to say its healthy to live that way.

C'mon science !!!!

Yes, it came off as if you were a bigoted, homophobic, ignorant, arrogant, and pious Poe. Glad I was wrong.