Keeping Feasts

[HoneyDew]

Here's an idea, how about you don't assume anything about me and I'll show you the same respect?

Sounds good to me. I think we all forget as we post that we really don't know each other. We are all in a sort of relationship here on this board, but it is limited in its scope and we should be more mindful to ask for clarification instead of assuming. Assuming is not really a bad thing -- it is a shortcut, but we should be more careful.

 

[payattention]

You quoted me specifically (your post #18), that took it out of the realm of "general" comment in my opinion. You specified "you", meaning you were talking to ME, that again took it out of the realm of "general."

I did not misinterpret what you said, and I am telling you now that I have not stopped studying and I never will.

Here is the problem. What I said was quoted by you:

It's a pity because you have woefully misinterpreted that passage concerning the law being added because of transgression. I am amazed at the number of truth-seeking Christians who prefer to stop studying an issue because it messes up the neat package they have already accepted.

First I spoke to you and then I made the general statement. When you commented you said that I made a general statement and then I addressed you. The two accounts are different. It is obvious what I did. I was clearly speaking about "the number of truth-seeking Christians," using your declaration that you would no longer engage in this particular discussion as an example.

I do not know you. This is an anonymous board. For all I know you could be my sister. I can only go by what you post on this board. Hey, there could even be only a few people with different personalities. The posts could be the product of a computer program. We do not know each other. Come to think of it, there is only one occassion when I was in continuous conversation on a forum with someone I knew. And even then I had to depend on the individual's name and the fact that he knew all the facts from my childhood that person should know.

 

[honorthesabbath]

When you said you would bow out of the discussion because of something with two other posters you gave yourself as much credit as you deserved.

The issue of the feasts is settled by the cross of Christ, whcih also settled the issue of the Levitical priesthood. My point is simple. There is as much authority to extend the feasts beyond the cross as there is to extend the authority of the Levitical system and its support system of tithing beyond the cross. We have no authority to separate the tithing system from the Levitical priesthood. To do so would be to challenge God's authority.

Let us not forget that the Aaronic priesthood was temporary, but the Priesthood of Christ is eternal; prefigured by that of Melchisedec. Tithing was a principle way before Aaron’s Levites. This is one reason that when Christ was admonishing the priests about tithing so carefully and yet ignoring the “weightier matters of the law”, that He didn’t then tell them that tithing was soon to end—because it wasn’t. The “Levitical” priesthood was about to end—but CHRIST’S HIGH priesthood was about to begin—and His church, would need financing just as the church of old did. Read carefully Hebrews 7, it clarifies this issue. And pray for spiritual discernment.



Heb 7:2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;



Blessings, Honor

 

[honorthesabbath]

Well it's the same forum, just different names used by posters in it.

Or "IMposters"!!!!!!! Oh--I kill me sometimes!!

Oh and keeping score--

Tall- 4
Pay-0

 

[payattention]

Let us not forget that the Aaronic priesthood was temporary, but the Priesthood of Christ is eternal; prefigured by that of Melchisedec. Tithing was a principle way before Aaron’s Levites. This is one reason that when Christ was admonishing the priests about tithing so carefully and yet ignoring the “weightier matters of the law”, that He didn’t then tell them that tithing was soon to end—because it wasn’t. The “Levitical” priesthood was about to end—but CHRIST’S HIGH priesthood was about to begin—and His church, would need financing just as the church of old did. Read carefully Hebrews 7, it clarifies this issue. And pray for spiritual discernment.

I wonder who will jump to my defense here and claim that you assumed that I do not have spiritual discernment.

Again, you are also confusing church support with the issue of tithing as many other have. The fact is that under the NT regime God claims all as His. I would also point out that in the church we are all priests which presents an interesting dilemma. How seriously do we wish to take the Bible?

 

[payattention]

Oh and keeping score--

Tall- 4
Pay-0

What are you scoring?

 

[honorthesabbath]

I wonder who will jump to my defense here and claim that you assumed that I do not have spiritual discernment.

Did I say that YOU didn't have spiritual discernment?? Now how did you come to THAT conclusion? "Oh why, oh why, am I constantly being misunderstood"??

Again, you are also confusing church support with the issue of tithing as many other have. The fact is that under the NT regime God claims all as His. I would also point out that in the church we are all priests which presents an interesting dilemma. How seriously do we wish to take the Bible?

I think God has ALWAYS claimed ALL as His...(note which testament this comes from)...

Ps 50:10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. 11 I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine.

12 If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.


I believe the operative word here is "HIGH" priest. Besides, the bible states the the "system" of the priesthood would change, because SACRIFICES and CEREMONIES would cease.

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

It is Christ our HIGH PRIEST who offers up His blood upon the altar of God. NOT ANY MAN!!


On a final note...

Mal 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

Notice how the author asks "will a man rob GOD?? He didn't say rob a Levite or a new priesthood...it says rob God. Not only with TITHE, but with OFFERINGS as well. Time and again we see that "tithe and offering" are synonymous. It's as if the bible is trying to tell us something of the nature of these acts of worship. That they are inseperable.

I'm curious about that word ROB. It implies violence. Now when a thief "steals", it's in secrecy. The scoundrel waits for the protection of the darkness of night--often when the victims are not home. He sneaks around, trying to remain undetected. BUT--the ROBBER is different. He committs his crime in broad day light--usually with a gun or other weapon. Almost PROUD of his own daring! I think that Malachi was wise in his choice of words here. But I'll leave THAT conclusion to the reader.

Blessings, Honor

 

[SassySDA]

Honor, it's so nice to see you back.

God bless

 

[SassySDA]

Sounds good to me. I think we all forget as we post that we really don't know each other. We are all in a sort of relationship here on this board, but it is limited in its scope and we should be more mindful to ask for clarification instead of assuming. Assuming is not really a bad thing -- it is a shortcut, but we should be more careful.

Assuming is always the wrong thing to do in any situation. We all fall prey to it at times, but we really should try not to.

During my tenure in corrections, this is something that we were taught from day one, and there were signs up (literally) everywhere one looked practically that said, and I'll have to use some poetic license, but I think you'll get the gist:

"When you ASSUME, you make a 'donkey' out of u and me".

In dealing with inmates, felons, etc., assuming anything can cost you or someone around you their life.

It's never, and I do mean NEVER a good thing to do.

I think a very good thing TO do, would be to ask for clarification. If something one posts appears to be speaking personally to you, then ask for that clarification. I think that's very good advice.

I'll try to remember to take it myself.

 

[TrustAndObey]

First I spoke to you and then I made the general statement. When you commented you said that I made a general statement and then I addressed you. The two accounts are different.

Here's a quick lesson in English...when you start a paragraph, your first sentence is the topic of that paragraph and everything else in the paragraph should support the very first statement. Therefore, if a paragraph begins with "you" the rest of the paragraph should be aimed at the same "you."

 

[SassySDA]

Here's a quick lesson in English...when you start a paragraph, your first sentence is the topic of that paragraph and everything else in the paragraph should support the very first statement. Therefore, if a paragraph begins with "you" the rest of the paragraph should be aimed at the same "you."

Game, set, MATCH

 

[orpinams]

Did I say that YOU didn't have spiritual discernment?? Now how did you come to THAT conclusion? "Oh why, oh why, am I constantly being misunderstood"??

I think he said somebody may claim you did. Looks like he was wrong. LOL

 

[orpinams]

Game, set, MATCH

Sometimes the topic sentence of a paragraph is in the middle, and sometimes at the end. I think you called that match too soon. I don't know nothing about theology but I know something about English Composition.

 

[TrustAndObey]

I don't know nothing about theology but I know something about English Composition.

The first sentence of any paragraph is called the "topic sentence". It's how you know what the paragraph is going to be about. That way, in a magazine or something, if you read the topic sentence and it's not a topic you care for...you can move to the next paragraph.

 

[honorthesabbath]

Honor, it's so nice to see you back.

God bless

Thank you Sassy. It's nice to see you again too. And thanks go out to Dave and staff for their gracious invitation.

 

[TrustAndObey]

I should say that the topic sentence is USUALLY the first sentence, it's supposed to be.

All sentences in a paragraph should coincide and address the same issue/person/topic etc.



I was pretty good in English too.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Where are my manners?! Welcome to the board orpinams!

 

[honorthesabbath]

Sometimes the topic sentence of a paragraph is in the middle, and sometimes at the end. I think you called that match too soon. I don't know nothing about theology but I know something about English Composition.

Is that a "double-negative"???? rofl--just kidding.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Are we going to start a new thread about tithing (and/or paragraph structuring) or should I just add my 2 cents on the topic in here?

 

[SassySDA]

Is that a "double-negative"???? rofl--just kidding.

Oh that's too funny!!