Justifying Abortion

[Tree of Life]

Yeah look at China lol. Do you seriously believe that?

I do. And just because a nation is prospering right now does not mean that there is not a judgment day in store for such a nation.

Have you ever seen "Yahweh" destroy a nation?

In my short tenure on earth I've never personally witnessed this. I'm sure many nations have toppled in the third world that I'm unaware of since I've been alive.

Or is that the sort of thing that you believe used to happen and could happen again?

It's happened hundreds, perhaps thousands of times all throughout world history up until now. Do you think that we've somehow reached the end of all of that and now everything is stable and will continue how it is forever?

 

[Tree of Life]

What kind of god destroys nations for not "fearing" him or "giving him glory"?

That's a genuine question...what are the words you'd use to describe such a creature?

Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

 

[thesopranopiano]

Yes. Yes they are. Pregnancy can happen without penetration, and a lot of people don't know that. There are a lot of urban myths about how to prevent a pregnancy too, like "you can't get pregnant on your first time" and "drinking a lot of Mountain Dew will keep you from conceiving" (this one is my favorite because it's true that people really think this).

True. And there's similar misinformation about contraceptive uses as well, such as thinking wearing two condoms is more effective (it's actually more likely to make them tear), and Rush Limbaugh didn't seem to understand how BC pills work when he was commenting on Sandra Fluke a few years back.

 

[thesopranopiano]

Well I guess it realy doesn't matter,abortion is legal up to the time of birth,if you are of the opinion that there will be no consequences for the 1.21 million or so abortions performed in America every year and that it has no negative effect on society then so be it.

Outlawing abortion will have a negative effect on society. Nobody likes having one, but they will continue to happen, whether legal or not.

 

[Tull]

Outlawing abortion will have a negative effect on society. Nobody likes having one, but they will continue to happen, whether legal or not.

I am an advocate of legalizing drugs for adults,can we apply the same they will do it anyway concept to that as well.

 

[thesopranopiano]

I am an advocate of legalizing drugs for adults,can we apply the same they will do it anyway concept to that as well.

I agree. Drugs should be legalized (or decriminalized), because jailing people for it is also having a negative effect on society.

 

[quatona]

Dont get the first part.

If protecting children means keeping them alive, God obviously doesn´t always protect children.

They die.

...to be
"taken home".

 

[Moral Orel]

Well I guess it realy doesn't matter,abortion is legal up to the time of birth,if you are of the opinion that there will be no consequences for the 1.21 million or so abortions performed in America every year and that it has no negative effect on society then so be it.

I didn't say anything about my stance on abortion. I simply identified some ways that we can cause there to be less abortions. Isn't that a good thing?

 

[smithed64]

If protecting children means keeping them alive, God obviously doesn´t always protect children.


...to be
"taken home".

Sure He does. There will come a time when that childs body will reunite with His/Her soul in Heaven. They will have a new body and a renewed Spirit. And those who committed these things against them if not repentant and trusting Jesus. They will face God with their sins, and face the consequences.
No, the fetsus' is thrown into a bio hazard bag and then treated like garbage,in many cases of abortion. If it's during a miscarry brought on by complicated pregnancy, yes I can see that does happen, the mourning parents may have a funeral for the child.
A couple of friends of mine, their daughter was born still born. They did have a funeral for Her, Her name was Jacqueline. She lived for one day. Then God called Her home, she had a heart problem. Her body rest in Clarksville, TN right now. But as I said earlier, There will come a day,where God will make the call and make it right. God takes care of us all who serve Him. And those who cannot fend for themselves

 

[Ana the Ist]

I do. And just because a nation is prospering right now does not mean that there is not a judgment day in store for such a nation.



In my short tenure on earth I've never personally witnessed this. I'm sure many nations have toppled in the third world that I'm unaware of since I've been alive.



It's happened hundreds, perhaps thousands of times all throughout world history up until now. Do you think that we've somehow reached the end of all of that and now everything is stable and will continue how it is forever?

I'm not so naive as to think that nations don't rise and fall...however, there doesn't seem to be any reason to think any god is involved in that process. Nothing mankind has built lasts forever...and that includes religions.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Destroyer of nations?

 

[Tree of Life]

Destroyer of nations?

Destroyer of nations. In the words of the prophets, God will shake the earth and every nation will be shaken off but the kingdom of God alone will remain.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Destroyer of nations. In the words of the prophets, God will shake the earth and every nation will be shaken off but the kingdom of God alone will remain.

Sounds like a wonderful guy lol.

 

[Skavau]

I do. And just because a nation is prospering right now does not mean that there is not a judgment day in store for such a nation.



In my short tenure on earth I've never personally witnessed this. I'm sure many nations have toppled in the third world that I'm unaware of since I've been alive.



It's happened hundreds, perhaps thousands of times all throughout world history up until now. Do you think that we've somehow reached the end of all of that and now everything is stable and will continue how it is forever?

You have to demonstrate that nations are toppled because of God. No-one is disputing that nations rise and fall.

 

[Tree of Life]

You have to demonstrate that nations are toppled because of God. No-one is disputing that nations rise and fall.

I don't feel a need to demonstrate it. Yet this is the claim of the Scriptures - Yahweh is responsible for the rise and fall of every nation. I can demonstrate that Scripture teaches this, if you'd like.

 

[Skavau]

I don't feel a need to demonstrate it. Yet this is the claim of the Scriptures - Yahweh is responsible for the rise and fall of every nation. I can demonstrate that Scripture teaches this, if you'd like.

Fine, but understand that no-one has any reason to take your claim seriously.

 

[SteveB28]

Sure He does. There will come a time when that childs body will reunite with His/Her soul in Heaven. They will have a new body and a renewed Spirit. And those who committed these things against them if not repentant and trusting Jesus. They will face God with their sins, and face the consequences.
No, the fetsus' is thrown into a bio hazard bag and then treated like garbage,in many cases of abortion. If it's during a miscarry brought on by complicated pregnancy, yes I can see that does happen, the mourning parents may have a funeral for the child.
A couple of friends of mine, their daughter was born still born. They did have a funeral for Her, Her name was Jacqueline. She lived for one day. Then God called Her home, she had a heart problem. Her body rest in Clarksville, TN right now. But as I said earlier, There will come a day,where God will make the call and make it right. God takes care of us all who serve Him. And those who cannot fend for themselves

No, he doesn't......

 

[SteveB28]

I don't feel a need to demonstrate it. Yet this is the claim of the Scriptures - Yahweh is responsible for the rise and fall of every nation. I can demonstrate that Scripture teaches this, if you'd like.

Oh, we are aware of what the scriptures claim.....but then, they are nothing more than the words of men, like yourself.......


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[VirOptimus]

Dont like abortions? Dont have one.

Problem solved.

 

[Sistrin]

It's a fetus.

... it's a fetus.

Goebbels would be proud.