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Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I'm not really looking for any advice, but prayers are always appreciated. I'm posting because I don't know how to deal with my feelings. To say I'm depressed is a serious understatement. If pressed, I would have to say that I don't think I am suicidal, but living can be so hard that sometimes I think about it. That is a hard thing to admit to myself, but I am pretty sure it is true. That is not to say that I don't have a lot of reasons to live, because I really do. But I am so tired of hurting.

I found my way to Christ about a year and a half ago. I had struggled with an anger problem for what felt like all my life. Those close to me would agree. I tried to turn away from that, and for the most part I have been successful. I have the occasional setback, but I don't hang onto, or look for offense like I did in the past. As part of my recovery from that and a pornography addiction, I started attending Celebrate Recovery, and that has been a real blessing. I never miss a meeting, and I am also part of the ministry team now. It has helped me a lot with my day to day issues, but I carry some pretty deep scars that I just can't talk about there. I know it is supposed to be anonymous, but there are some things that are just too sensitive, and the likelihood of another person being wounded is just too great. I will explain a little more as I go.

My wife and I have been married a long time. I'll leave it at that, to maintain a little anonymity. The last 20 years have been pretty rocky. I know that I am to blame for a lot of that. The last year and a half have been the best of our marriage, since we have both drawn to God, and to each other, and have been really deliberate about trying to build a biblical marriage. We have both come a long way, individually, and as a couple. Somehow, people think our marriage is good enough that they come to me for advice, and to be honest, it really is that good. 2 years ago, I was probably wishing it would just end.

20 years ago, things were not so good. It is fair to say that things were pretty bad, and at one really low point, when it looked like we were not going to make it together, my wife learned she was pregnant, and not only withheld that information, but had an abortion. Thru happenstance, I learned of it. Somehow, we got thru that, and our marriage limped along for the next 20 years. I tucked the abortion away in the back of my mind, and almost never thought of it. That is just as well I suppose, because if I had, I would not have forgiven. I didn't even begin to know how. Now, I can forgive, but I just can't seem to forget. I carry a huge amount of guilt, grief and regret, and I can't seem to move beyond it. I can choke it down, and bury it when I need to, but the minute I am alone with my thoughts, it washes over me and carries me. Rather than diminishing with time, it only seems to get worse.

Now, my wife is gone for 2 weeks, visiting her family before the holidays, and work kept me home. I have 2 weeks of evenings alone with my thoughts, and that terrifies me. I have a trusted few people who know that I can reach out to, but not 24 hours a day. My best friend is a Lay Pastor and the ministry leader at CR, and he tries to reach me, but I shut down emotionally until I am alone. I don't know how not to.

I carry this alone, because it would hurt my wife to know how much I hurt. She might even see it as an accusation. So I keep it bottled inside, because the truth is that I'm not sure that she is ready to deal with it, and I don't want to hurt her. We have only spoken of it once, about a year ago, and she couldn't talk about it, so I dropped it, and I am waiting for her. I don't know how else to handle it.

I'm writing this, because I just need to get it out somewhere safe. I don't know if it will help but I hope so.
 
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Sounds like you have made some gigantic strides under His guidance, and old memories are fuzzing things up. Open that Bible, meet with or call your Lay Pastor, invite some of the members of your fellowship over. In short, get a foothold on a starting place and move forward in His over-whelming, never-ending Love.

Praying for you and your wife. Assemble the precious memories --- talk about them at Christmas time.
 
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This sounds very difficult. More than that. I am glad you posted. I won't offer an "opinion" except that ruminative regret and replaying can become an addiction. I suggest you pray and look for how to let go of that. Not because what happened wasn"t important but because killing yourself with it is not helpful.

Have you prayed about this with your wife? Sometimes that can help avoid the "accusation" feelings.
 
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I dealt with depression, anxiety disorder and combat PTSD for several years until the Lord delivered me of it a year and a half ago. I tried medication, I tried keeping busy, at one point I was working two jobs, but whenever I was alone the depression would set in immediately. I would bottle everything up and get cold and bitter, finding any means of distraction to keep from having to deal with the thoughts. I was backslid and cursing God. I wanted to die or run off into the wilderness but I had a family to support. I finally reached rock bottom and cried out to the Lord and he delivered me and filled me with the Holy Spirit overnight. I believe it was demonic oppression, generational spirits and deep wounds of the flesh that only He could heal. For me, the majority of the healing was overnight, but I know others that go through a longer process. The rest of my life is a walk with Him now.

I want you to be encouraged and know that your Father is a healer and that He absolutely loves you and wants you and your wife set free. He will work at restoring you as long as it takes, as long as you rest in Him. You have to trust Him completely and lay everything on His altar for Him to restore. He is in control. The child that was lost, you dedicate that child to Him. That precious life was His, it was returned to Him, He knows everything, He was there, He forgives you and He loves you both. We are all His children. He sacrificed His Son so that we would all be forgiven and set free. So that you and your wife would be truly forgiven, restored, brought together in love and given peace and rest.

For you to forgive others, you have to allow Him to forgive you. You have to truly receive His forgiveness. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness. None of our tears fall in vain and He hears every word we speak to Him. His love is far greater than our love.

The enemy would use these next two weeks to bully you with guilt and condemnation. Instead, use them to get closer to our Father. Seek Him in prayer and worship, flood the room with worship music and praise Him. Ask Him to forgive you and fill you with His Holy Spirit to guide you in how to handle everything. The Holy Spirit is the Comforter that was promised to us by Jesus Christ. It's powerful. Don't sit alone, invite Him to sit with you. He's a good Father.

Love you brother. Hang in there. Desperate for Him is a good place to be.
 
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I want to thank everyone for their thoughts, and their prayers. It does help to feel that I am not quite so alone with this. Not discounting anything that anyone said, or dismissing any of the advice given, but I have really tried to lay this at the cross and for now, I just don't know how. It may be that this is just my thorn. I love my wife, and I will carry it as long as I have to, until she is ready to grieve with me. It gets so heavy sometimes tho.

Pearcekj,

Thank you for your service. I am also a combat veteran, with all the baggage that goes with that. One of the early dysfunctions in our marriage, is that I put a lot more effort into being a warrior than I did a husband. If the experts know what they are talking about, and I am pretty sure they do, then I also deal with PTSD, both from my military service, but also apparently abortion has a sort of PTSD as well, and with the little I know about it, I am a textbook case. Rage, control issues, and trust issues are very real struggles for me, but I have been fighting the fight and seeing a lot of progress in them. The depression is another matter all together. I will get to the point that I almost let the tears go, and then choke it all back. Whatever breakthru God has in store for me there, still eludes me.

I can relate well to cursing God. I went from a pretty weak Christian, to an agnostic, to an antagonistic attitude towards God. I never could quite deny his existence, but I sure didn't want anything to do with him or Christians after that. I guess it is fair to say that I felt judged, and if that was the way it was, well, I would get by just fine without him and be my own God. I was wrong on that. I messed things up in a big way, and somehow he still drew me back into the fold.

That whole run off into the wilderness is my thing. Some days I just want to walk away from everything, and the wilderness was the only place I could feel his presence at all for a long time.
 
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Said a prayer for you, man. It sounds like too easy of a thing to say, but you don't have to bottle everything up inside. I trust that you'll get there. I was like that too, but "luckily" I messed up so bad that hiding it wasn't an option anymore.

I do believe that God is love, and His grace goes far beyond of our understanding. We like to stare at rules and sins, often thinking that grace, patience and love have no room in any of it. When I get anxious, I remember the publican's prayer which Christ liked. I also remember when Christ forgave the criminal beside him, and the people crucifying him. It is hard for us to understand such love and grace, but by far the best thing I have ever put my hopes in. God bless.
 
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My dear brother you can heal much more than you have. It is about finding God's positive(s) to plug into your negative(s) so that you get some good powerful sparks.

Can you see that your misery is caused by pain, regret, wrong, violence, death, destruction etc?

This is what is living in you because you've kept it in there, you are much better off not to do that for that is when things explode.

I've got P.T.S.D from an sexual assault so I know full well how rage, anxiety, trauma memories/horror thoughts and distrust wreck our emotional life time and again.However help can be found.

Great to hear you know Jesus and that your wife does as well. Now firstly it seems to me it is about letting God wash both you and your wife from the guilt of the abortion. Where forgiveness, grace, and life with God - not death - stands central.

I advise you to go and seek counseling about this first. Good Christian counseling, both of you, and when the major pain has been talked and cried through, then you and her together before God's mercy seat. It is not having done this which is spooking in your heart and mind for in this part of your life you (nor your wife,) haven't entered God's Rest yet because of the pain and guilt.

Keep presenting God with he central issues that are hurting you and remember that guilt tells us about wrong but doesn't forgive nor fix it. God's grace does that.

So to put the wrong before God's mercy seat is essential and leaving it there until the wrong begins to produce right. For God makes straight that which was crooked and what is no good He makes good.

Praying you will find the peace and love you need to move away from all of this.

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An invitation to The Chosen.

God's Love will not take or will
you to conform to rules or demand
which imprison, enslave, burn or kill you.

God's Love will not pervert what's Good
The Lord loves truthfully Wise and Good.
True Love was, is and always will be Good!

In God's Love you are free to be right!
In His love everything is good proper and kind.
He loves all who love good and true to rule!

His Love is caring, providing, and sharing.
His Love always enjoys and protects good life.
His love rules even when bad life has being in us!

Hear Jesus call - 'Come join up with us all!
Leave whatever ties you down and be free
loving good life with all God's own to be.'

To the rest in your heart God's asks
how long will you tarry in the darkness?
Please leave such bad existence within.

For life must not, no never should, or would, or could,
be forceful, rude, prideful, arrogant, selfish, lustful
or otherwise be untrue to God's loving truth.

Neither should life be hurting or ill,
hungry, oppressed, despised, hated
or otherwise have existence in wrong.

Please hand your Bad Life over to Jesus
Humbly ask for His Good Life back in return
and go love God, self and neighbour with Joy.

The Church knows that Jesus is coming soon
All bad life will be our shameful past then,
so please leave your bad life while you can!

Love
 
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Don't give up the struggle. I have faith that you will overcome. I was miserable, powerless and unable to get my life and my mind right by my own strength. For ten years I couldn't hear Him, I could barely speak to Him, but I could not deny Him in my heart. He brought me to the end of myself and then lifted me up and that whole process was the greatest thing that's ever happened to me.

Seek Christian counsel, pray whatever prayers you can muster and feel free to keep in touch. You will overcome.
 
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Seems like a lifetime since I posted. Would like to say that I am all better now, but it my quiet times, I always end up in the same place.

Not sure what healing looks like. Maybe this is as good as it will ever get for me.

Lost my Mom earlier this year. My wife barely acknowledged it. I can't remember her even telling me she was sorry. I think it is very hard for her to acknowledge my feelings at all, so I tend to keep them well hidden
 
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Seems like a lifetime since I posted. Would like to say that I am all better now, but it my quiet times, I always end up in the same place.

Not sure what healing looks like. Maybe this is as good as it will ever get for me.

Lost my Mom earlier this year. My wife barely acknowledged it. I can't remember her even telling me she was sorry. I think it is very hard for her to acknowledge my feelings at all, so I tend to keep them well hidden
My condolences about your Mom.

Do you have someone to talk to, a pastor, priest, counselor?
 
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Actually, My Mom was that person. There are others I could speak to ass well, obviously, but only a handful know everything. Even my counselor recently retired. We are still friends and keep in touch, but I won't take this to him. He very much deserves some rest because of some personal struggles he has faced recently.

This will pass, for a time anyways. I have no doubt it will revisit me right up to the grave.
 
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