I've been feeling very sad lately... I feel like I've failed God. I got saved a couple of months ago, I went to the altar and accepted God publicacly(sp?)but, Iaccepted him in my life in a very young age. I see my cousins and other people that have accepted him with so much faith, love , and fire for him... I don't feel that. I kind of feel guilty about it. I've stopped reading the bible, i pick it up from time to time, but not like before. I do talk to him all day long and ask him to guide me in the right path, to come to me in dreams or to just let me feel his presence. I sometimes feel like he gave up on me, I want to go to church but its like something stops me from going. Its like there is a battle going on in my mind. I need prayer, I admire all the people that have that fire and I sometimes feel jelous because I don't have that ....=(
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Just my thoughts....
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preachergirl
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Yes there is such, who accuses us day and night, and this is your enemy; you are not your enemy. God's love for you is greater than your dislike for yourself. He is the author and finisher of your faith and you need not rely so heavily on just you. Human feelings are not the same at all as the Joy of the Lord, so don't stumble over them. Know that there are 2 Natures we are dealing with...there is the earthly, natural nature which was born in sin, and there is the spiritual Nature which is given to you from God. If you gave your heart to God no "feelings" can or have taken away your name from the Lamb's Book of Life.
The Joy of the Lord is something different because it does not come from the same Nature that your feelings come from. And this Joy is not dependent on feelings. You can know this Joy in the middle of crises. Don't be so hard on yourself....God is NOT being hard on you...
This is only the beginning, of a new life, don't worry that you need to be like other people or need to be any certain way...In time we "learn" that Jesus really is there with you All the time...he is not hard to find because guess what? He doesn't just give you a new heart but he actually comes and lives "in" your heart, and it's the heart God looks on while man looks on the outward. And He knows what is "True" in the deeper places, and you do not be fooled into thinking that what you feel on the surface is what is true in the deep.
We are told we have to "renew our mind." Our mind is still earthly and is very used to thinking in the other Nature. The word will renew your mind. You may feel weary when you try to read it..."The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." Keep on anyway...and your spirit in little time will win! And this you will "feel." I say this from a specific experience where I began to attempt to pray for 1 hour each early morning...at first it was almost impossible...I would yawn and try and just couldn't do it....but I did not give up! In only days I guess my faithfullness paid off...I would cry "as" I went to sit in that place on the kitchen floor...feeling the presence of God cover me each day as I went to that place...and then the words I read in front of me became Fire...and I could not stop praying even after an hour...and this I did "feel." Be Encouraged; We walk by faith (Belief) and not by sight. love kim
The Joy of the Lord is something different because it does not come from the same Nature that your feelings come from. And this Joy is not dependent on feelings. You can know this Joy in the middle of crises. Don't be so hard on yourself....God is NOT being hard on you...
This is only the beginning, of a new life, don't worry that you need to be like other people or need to be any certain way...In time we "learn" that Jesus really is there with you All the time...he is not hard to find because guess what? He doesn't just give you a new heart but he actually comes and lives "in" your heart, and it's the heart God looks on while man looks on the outward. And He knows what is "True" in the deeper places, and you do not be fooled into thinking that what you feel on the surface is what is true in the deep.
We are told we have to "renew our mind." Our mind is still earthly and is very used to thinking in the other Nature. The word will renew your mind. You may feel weary when you try to read it..."The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." Keep on anyway...and your spirit in little time will win! And this you will "feel." I say this from a specific experience where I began to attempt to pray for 1 hour each early morning...at first it was almost impossible...I would yawn and try and just couldn't do it....but I did not give up! In only days I guess my faithfullness paid off...I would cry "as" I went to sit in that place on the kitchen floor...feeling the presence of God cover me each day as I went to that place...and then the words I read in front of me became Fire...and I could not stop praying even after an hour...and this I did "feel." Be Encouraged; We walk by faith (Belief) and not by sight. love kim
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scrofford
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We walk by faith, not by feelings. Don't be deceived by Satan and believe that God would ever even consider such a thing as God giving up on you! Why would God give up on you? That is Satan talking. In times like this, you need to read your Bible more and press in with prayer!
Incidently there is a battle going on in your mind. Since Satan couldn't keep you from Salvation, he is going to try to keep you from being ineffective for God. Don't worry about what all of the other people have. Grow in your relationship with God. He loves you and will not quit on you! Don't quit on Him!
Remember, we are in a real war...a spiritual war...and you were saved from an eternity seperated from God! You have been redeemed. Washed clean! Jesus loves you the same now as He has ever loved you!
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Sketcher
Born Imperishable
God doesn't give up on us.
"Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. " - 2 Corinthians 1:21-22
"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." - Romans 8:38-39
You don't have to be a super-Christian, as you're perceiving these people to be, to show your face in church. In fact, avoiding church because you're not as good as you feel you need to be will make you worse, because church is a kind of food for the Christian soul. That's where we all go, no matter where we're at, to inch towards getting better. Isolation just starves you out spiritually, you need to avoid that.
"Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. " - 2 Corinthians 1:21-22
"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." - Romans 8:38-39
You don't have to be a super-Christian, as you're perceiving these people to be, to show your face in church. In fact, avoiding church because you're not as good as you feel you need to be will make you worse, because church is a kind of food for the Christian soul. That's where we all go, no matter where we're at, to inch towards getting better. Isolation just starves you out spiritually, you need to avoid that.
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Hmmm, did you know that God does have feelings? That even though He feels frusts and so on, what is different about Him is He never gives up. Now of course I won't know of your situation. But the Lord is the same to everyone. We're talking about a great God who is big enough not just making stars and planets with hands but with FINGERS, (psalm 8) but a God who is also big enough to be intimately acquainted with our lives, EACH and every one of us.
The fact that He formed you makes you a "property" of His, that He saved you, that makes you His twice. It's interesting when you think about it. Hopefully you see sin as how sinful sin is, that way you would understand the magnitude of His grace.
It's simple, if someone saves you from drowning, you'd not only be thankful, but you'd give your entire life to him. Trust in Jesus.
It's weird if we ask our spouses to make us love them more. But with God is different. As long as there is a desire, its possible to pray God make me love you more, make me understand the full measurement of your grace.
Now about reading the bible or going to Church lets think of it as giving, e.g. giving time. Now lets say I ask my friend to wash my car every weekend. She might agree, though not as zealous or glad about it. But lets say I pay her 1000 pounds a week, she said she'd be so passionate even if its just a car wash that she'd do it every week. Our treasure is in Heaven. When we understand Him we know in the end, God is the ONLY giver.
The fact that He formed you makes you a "property" of His, that He saved you, that makes you His twice. It's interesting when you think about it. Hopefully you see sin as how sinful sin is, that way you would understand the magnitude of His grace.
It's simple, if someone saves you from drowning, you'd not only be thankful, but you'd give your entire life to him. Trust in Jesus.
It's weird if we ask our spouses to make us love them more. But with God is different. As long as there is a desire, its possible to pray God make me love you more, make me understand the full measurement of your grace.
Now about reading the bible or going to Church lets think of it as giving, e.g. giving time. Now lets say I ask my friend to wash my car every weekend. She might agree, though not as zealous or glad about it. But lets say I pay her 1000 pounds a week, she said she'd be so passionate even if its just a car wash that she'd do it every week. Our treasure is in Heaven. When we understand Him we know in the end, God is the ONLY giver.
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toolite
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Trinity - You I will pray for. Because of Truth.. If we can not be honest with ourself we can not do anything with God! Sometimes you will go through a dry period where you not motivated by much and you just wonder if God is still there.. That's your time to seek him even more.. I believe it's to see if you will seek him even though you don't feel him.. God will never leave you ever.. And then also it could be your next level.. Sometimes when you are moving to next level it feels weird and it's just God saying ok I need to show you something else.. So when you are talking with God tell him you accept your next level and to show you because you are ready.. We get comfortable but, God does allow us to stay on the same level... Stay Blessed! For You Are Truly Blessed!
All the Glory Belongs To God Forever! And His Word Does Not Come Back Void!
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Just because another has had an experience with God does not make a person less than God. All that you need is to do God's will which is to believe in the one who has he sent and do his will which is to walk in the Spirit which is to follow Him with your heart. If you have a hard time with this, pray. Sometimes, you may feel that the Father doesn't listen, but He does things on the right timing. Have faith. Everything will work out.
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Dear Trinity,
All your comments and sadness are unfounded because God is not exactly what you expect him to be.
The Christian religion is supposed to be a happy and invigorating religion because it really is the Good News. But I am afraid to say that many Christians make it into a religion of fear rather than happiness. And they do this by instilling guilt and fear of the devil and the wrath of God.
Pay not attention to such people!
Focus on the real and true message of Jesus. Read only the actual sayings of Christ and do not be taken in by the judgmental tone of Christians around you.
I don't know your real reason for this internal struggle but if you feel you need something more than just acceptance of Christ and going to Church, you might want to download a free book entitled "John's Guide To Knowing And Entering The Eternal Kingdom" by going to thesonsoflight.wordpress (the policy of this forum prevents me from adding the complete address but you can add the dotcom behind.
Best wishes.
All your comments and sadness are unfounded because God is not exactly what you expect him to be.
The Christian religion is supposed to be a happy and invigorating religion because it really is the Good News. But I am afraid to say that many Christians make it into a religion of fear rather than happiness. And they do this by instilling guilt and fear of the devil and the wrath of God.
Pay not attention to such people!
Focus on the real and true message of Jesus. Read only the actual sayings of Christ and do not be taken in by the judgmental tone of Christians around you.
I don't know your real reason for this internal struggle but if you feel you need something more than just acceptance of Christ and going to Church, you might want to download a free book entitled "John's Guide To Knowing And Entering The Eternal Kingdom" by going to thesonsoflight.wordpress (the policy of this forum prevents me from adding the complete address but you can add the dotcom behind.
Best wishes.
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Experience doesn't happen to everyone. Experience doesn't save a person. Jesus DOES love you. He loves everyone. Read Eccleiastes and Job. They may give you some insight. I know that they are Old Testament books, but try to see what goes on there. Jesus loves you and don't forget the gift that you will receive if you keep walking with the Lord! Hold on, it isn't over!
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Hello all,
I want to say thank you all for your great advice and prayer. I think I've been going thru a dry spell like someone here said, and I 've not been reading the bible like I should and the devil has been attacking me even more... but I want to tell you guys that I had a revelation the other night. God speak to me thru dreams sometimes I can see what they mean at the time... I don't tell people because I don't want to freak them out and besides he speaks to me about my life... God has been talking to me for a while specially when I was reading the bible, but he stopped and then the other night I had the most amazying dream. It was so powerful, it woke me up and all I can hear myself say was "THANK YOU JESUS! THANK YOU JESUS!" I've been struggling with my past for a long time, in the dream I saw myself running away from it, then my past was chasing me, then it confronted me.. i felt at peace about it, then before i woke up a voice said, "YOU ARE FREE" and in the dream i felt joyful and I saw myself jumping up and down saying IM FREE... when I woke up i felt like something awful had been taking away from me and I felt at peace with myself, no more guilt, no more questions.... all I can say is GOD is beautiful and awesome. THANK YOU JESUS!!!!! all you have to do is ask... his timing is always right.. I love you lord.
I want to say thank you all for your great advice and prayer. I think I've been going thru a dry spell like someone here said, and I 've not been reading the bible like I should and the devil has been attacking me even more... but I want to tell you guys that I had a revelation the other night. God speak to me thru dreams sometimes I can see what they mean at the time... I don't tell people because I don't want to freak them out and besides he speaks to me about my life... God has been talking to me for a while specially when I was reading the bible, but he stopped and then the other night I had the most amazying dream. It was so powerful, it woke me up and all I can hear myself say was "THANK YOU JESUS! THANK YOU JESUS!" I've been struggling with my past for a long time, in the dream I saw myself running away from it, then my past was chasing me, then it confronted me.. i felt at peace about it, then before i woke up a voice said, "YOU ARE FREE" and in the dream i felt joyful and I saw myself jumping up and down saying IM FREE... when I woke up i felt like something awful had been taking away from me and I felt at peace with myself, no more guilt, no more questions.... all I can say is GOD is beautiful and awesome. THANK YOU JESUS!!!!! all you have to do is ask... his timing is always right.. I love you lord.
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