Just for final clarification yes, we evolved from monkeys.

[AV1611VET]

Is this the one? He's explaining what common ancestry means and destroying the ridiculous "But why are there still chimpanzees?" strawman that creationists use.

Notice the connect-the-dots style being employed?

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Notice the connect-the-dots style being employed?

Every single test that evolution has ever faced it has passed with flying colors. The dots connect quite well.

 

[ScottA]

Having no knowledge of the beginning or the end, the evolutionist proclaims himself Supreme Expert...because he "thinks" he knows the middle. Brilliant delusion.

 

[AV1611VET]

Every single test that evolution has ever faced it has passed with flying colors. The dots connect quite well.

After how many tries?

 

[bhsmte]

Having no knowledge of the beginning or the end, the evolutionists proclaims himself Supreme Expert...because he "thinks" he knows the middle. Brilliant delusion.

Those who claim to have this knowledge of the beginning and the end, with no evidence, are the epitome of delusion.

 

[ScottA]

Those who claim to have this knowledge of the beginning and the end, with no evidence, are the epitome of delusion.

Yet another failure to properly assess the terms: The inability on your part to view the evidence, is not a failure on our part to produce it...we have.

 

[Rodan6]

"Evolution" is only one problem facing modern "Fundamentalists". There are many other examples. In the light of our modern age of information, they must continuously defend the indefensible. An angry God destroys the entire world in a great flood,..a man is swallowed by a whale,..(and survives).. and many, many other examples. Despite the obvious fiction of such tenants, many Fundamentalist bible worshipers persist in their doctrines. But will their children believe these things as well? Will their grandchildren? It is understandable that our ancient ancestors believed such things. But much more has been given us in our modern age and much, much more is expected of us.

 

[SteveB28]

After how many tries?

Why does that matter? As long as there is covergence upon the truth, who cares how many "tries" it takes?

 

[bhsmte]

Yet another failure to properly assess the terms: The inability on your part to view the evidence, is not a failure on our part to produce it...we have.

What evidence?

 

[ScottA]

What evidence?

God.

 

[bhsmte]

God.

Present this evidence.

 

[sfs]

Please answer the question. What was a spider before it was a spider and what is it evolving into?

Every individual spider was always a spider. The spider species you're looking at was something else -- a different spider, and before that, some other arthropod.

That's the premise of evolution. Something changed into something it didn't start out,to be. Humans were not always humans. We were something else in the beginning and we are evolving into,something else.

Quite true. Humans today are not identical to humans a thousand years ago, or ten thousand years ago. Species change constantly. The only reason we have the illusion that a species is a constant "thing" is that we observe the over such short time periods.

But as long as we're demanding that people answer our questions, how about you answer my questions to you about Biblical interpretation. It sure seemed like you wanted to shift from talking about evolution to talking about the Bible, but when I asked you about well-known Biblical scholars, you clammed up. Why?

 

[USincognito]

No debate? I thought that's what we were doing. Its amazing the amount of assumption and supposition in evolution. You have your so called evidence and assume it shows evolution. You suppose it shows evolution when you still can't run an experiment where a creature turns into another creature. Why, because it's already occured according to,evolution. Yet no observation has occurred.

Magic words and thinks evolution is Pokemon.

 

[USincognito]

Do you mean, what was the ancestor species of what are now the various species of spiders?
A single individual spider will never be anything but a spider. Its remote descendants may well be something else.

But they won't stop being spiders or arachnids or arthropods or protostomes, etc.

 

[SteveB28]

Please answer the question. What was a spider before it was a spider and what is it evolving into? That's the premise of evolution. Something changed into something it didn't start out,to be. Humans were not always humans. We were something else in the beginning and we are evolving into,something else.

This is almost painful.....

The spider was.........a spider! And its progeny will be ..........spiders!

BUT those progeny will have slight differences in their genetic make-up, just as your genetic make-up is slightly different to either of your parents. And, if those differences make a positive effect on your ability to survive and reproduce, they will become more prolific in the population. If they are harmful to your reproductive success, they will become less prolific.

And thats all there is to it......

 

[USincognito]

See I knew you would do that, that's why I don't bother much with trying to show how evolution is a bunch of assumptive nonsense because all you do is dismiss it any way. Just like I dismiss evolution.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/61/Avoiding-the-Issue

 

[USincognito]

I have a degree in Biblical Literature.

Cool. Though a Bible college background does explain your reliance magic words like "assumptions" and your avoidance of actually addressing the evidence.

There are Christians who believe in evolution because of what mans science proclaims.

You misspelled "evidence".

I try and teach them about Gods word and how it defies evolution.

The evidence defies a literal interpretation of Genesis. Have you ever heard of Adam Sedgewick? Like several of the early geologists, his education was in theology and initially he set out to find evidence of the Flood. The problem is the more he looked at the actual evidence, the more it contradicted a literal, global Flood. Have you ever thought about looking at the evidence? I mean the real evidence, not the garbage on NWCreation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Sedgwick#Geological_views_and_evolution

 

[MasonP]

You "believe" - good one, that's hilarious!

Also called madness by people who "know" about such things I believe.

 

[USincognito]

Of course, you have no way at all of knowing what drives scientists to their conclusions since you don't know them, don't talk to them and don't read their research. It's your conclusions that seem to be driven by belief, since you have no information to go on. (Leastwise you have given no indication that you have any information, either about evolutionary biologists or about the evidence for evolution.)

By the way, I see that you didn't respond to my questions about Biblical interpretation. Are you familiar with the scholars I asked you about?

It would be nice if lay Creationists would at least familiarize themselves with Dr. Todd Wood of Bryan College.

 

[USincognito]

I guess saying that is one way to avoid the point of what he was saying.

The problem is, much like the rest of his bazillion posts, there is no point to them. He finally stopped his ghoulish obsession with the Challenger disaster, but he's still blathering on about thalidomide and Pluto. It's tired, insipid shtick and the only people impressed by it are him and few others.