Just a question on the matter

[Wednesday]

Dear Wednesday,
God's word and purpose for humans in creation is man and woman, not what animals do.

No, no, no. News flash. Humans are animal species. We are animals.

And water is wet and fire is hot, in case you are wondering that aswell.

 

[OllieFranz]

So why isn't inhospitality known as "sodomy" then?



God set His judgment upon Sodom and Gomorrah because they were unrighteous beyond belief, probably beyond all others, and it wasn't simply inhospitality or homosexuality alone. In every way, these were unrighteous people, not in just the sexual areas of their lives.

Blessings and love.

Omar

The English "sin" of Sodomy and the English "sin" of Onanism, are mis-named. The scriptural passages for which they are named were mis-applied to situations that they do not describe.

The Jewish rabbis whose commentaries, arguments, and rulings are recorded in the Talmud and other ancient works recognized the crime of Sodomy (or more precisely "acting like a Sodomite") as refusing hospitality, even when it would cost you nothing. (For example, if you have already harvested a field and a traveller asks to camp out one night.)

I would think that people who spoke the language, and were both culturally and temporally closer to the situation should understand the meaning of the word better than cultural strangers speaking a different language.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

No, no, no. News flash. Humans are animal species. We are animals.

And water is wet and fire is hot, in case you are wondering that aswell.

given that its one of us saying that, I wouldn't be surprised if he trys to tell us water isn't wet, its actually yellow, or some equally counterintuitive wierdness

 

[Wednesday]

Just for a moment, off topic. There are Holocaust deniers on CF?! Not that I'm too surprised, but

 

[k2svpete]

Over 1500 animal species engage in homosexual activities.

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718

Read them and weep.

Thank you for supporting my arguement on the perversity of homosexuality and the unnatural state of it. If you had bothered to read what I had posted I said that dolphins and humans are the only two species that engage in sex for reasons other than to procreate. If that's too big a word for you, I'll break it down. Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex socially, without the aim being to make babies.

Great, so there are many species that have been corrupted due to man's sin. Well bowl me over with a feather!

You're going to have to do better than that.

 

[Brennin]

The English "sin" of Sodomy and the English "sin" of Onanism, are mis-named. The scriptural passages for which they are named were mis-applied to situations that they do not describe.

The Jewish rabbis whose commentaries, arguments, and rulings are recorded in the Talmud and other ancient works recognized the crime of Sodomy (or more precisely "acting like a Sodomite") as refusing hospitality, even when it would cost you nothing. (For example, if you have already harvested a field and a traveller asks to camp out one night.)

I would think that people who spoke the language, and were both culturally and temporally closer to the situation should understand the meaning of the word better than cultural strangers speaking a different language.

Jude disagrees, as did others before him, and I prefer their testimony to that of the rabbis you cite. (Not that they are necessarily mutually exclusive.)

 

[k2svpete]

No, no, no. News flash. Humans are animal species. We are animals.

And water is wet and fire is hot, in case you are wondering that aswell.

Striclty speaking we are unique among creation, being the only creatures with the ability to reason.

 

[Wednesday]

Thank you for supporting my arguement on the perversity of homosexuality and the unnatural state of it. If you had bothered to read what I had posted I said that dolphins and humans are the only two species that engage in sex for reasons other than to procreate. If that's too big a word for you, I'll break it down. Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex socially, without the aim being to make babies.

Great, so there are many species that have been corrupted due to man's sin. Well bowl me over with a feather!

You're going to have to do better than that.

If it is common among other animal species, humans being one of them. How exactly homosexuality is unnatural ?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Thank you for supporting my arguement on the perversity of homosexuality and the unnatural state of it. If you had bothered to read what I had posted I said that dolphins and humans are the only two species that engage in sex for reasons other than to procreate. If that's too big a word for you, I'll break it down. Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex socially, without the aim being to make babies.

Great, so there are many species that have been corrupted due to man's sin. Well bowl me over with a feather!

You're going to have to do better than that.

*LMCO* only dolphins and humans have sex fo pleasure... did you get that from the same email that says duck's quacks don't echo and you swallow 7 spiders while asleep?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Striclty speaking we are unique among creation, being the only creatures with the ability to reason.

define "reason"?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

If it is common among other animal species, humans being one of them. How exactly homosexuality is unnatural ?

and for that matter... if homosexuality is unnatural, and unnatural equals bad... how does he feel about eyeglasswes, anti-biotics and hearing aids?

 

[Wednesday]

Or using a computer? I mean how unnatural is that?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Or using a computer? I mean how unnatural is that?

Well yeah... but no matter... I'm sure its one of those

"everything on THIS list is condemned, but everything NOT on THAT list is condemned... everything on THOSE lists are OK, and everything NOT on those OTHER lists is OK"... or something.

Then he'll accuse you of not taking it in context, and twisting scripture... and anyway, you aren't a real Christian, otherwise you'd know all this stuff.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Wednesday,

No, no, no. News flash. Humans are animal species. We are animals.

Let me repeat, God's purposes are for man and woman, I dont think all other anilmals or even any of them are men and woman. Perhaps I should have said homo sapiens , but I didnt know whether I should go back to homo-errectus and authralopithicus.

And water is wet and fire is hot, in case you are wondering that aswell.

Its not when its ice

 

[Phinehas2]

Of course homosexuality is unnatural so is paedophilia, the purpose of God is that a man shall leave his father and mother and be united with his wife and the two shall become one flesh. A man cant leave his father and father and be united with a boy and the two become one flesh. Thus gay and lesbian thinking is a nonsence concept purely designed to try and establish sexual deviation and degradation just because some find it pleasurable and gratifying.
Thats not a problem to have a differecne of opinoon, but the Christian position on it is that God's purpsoe is man and woman and same-sex unions are error, hence Gen 2, Gen19, Lev 18 & 20, Judges 19, Matt 19, Mark 10, Eph 5, 1 Cor 5-7, 1 Tim 1, Romans 1, 2 Peter 2 and Jude 1, just for starters.
I think as long as we can accpet that we can agree to differ

 

[k2svpete]

If it is common among other animal species, humans being one of them. How exactly homosexuality is unnatural ?

Ahh, because it's a by-product of sin for one.

Secondly, if you ever plan on going to uni or similar you are going to have to do a lot of work on your ability to reason and put forward an argument. It has already been ponted out that humans and dolphins are the two species that engage in sex socially. Therefore, your references to other animals is irrelevant to the point at hand.

So, how's that list of wonderful people concieved withing a homosexual relationship coming along? It's 'natural' after all.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Dear Wednesday,
Let me repeat, God's purposes are for man and woman, I dont think all other anilmals or even any of them are men and woman. Perhaps I should have said homo sapiens , but I didnt know whether I should go back to homo-errectus and authralopithicus.
Its not when its ice

*LMFCO* I KNEW he'd take issue! Just for the sake of disagreeing!

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Of course homosexuality is unnatural so is paedophilia, the purpose of God is that a man shall leave his father and mother and be united with his wife and the two shall become one flesh. A man cant leave his father and father and be united with a boy and the two become one flesh. Thus gay and lesbian thinking is a nonsence concept purely designed to try and establish sexual deviation and degradation just because some find it pleasurable and gratifying.
Thats not a problem to have a differecne of opinoon, but the Christian position on it is that God's purpsoe is man and woman and same-sex unions are error, hence Gen 2, Gen19, Lev 18 & 20, Judges 19, Matt 19, Mark 10, Eph 5, 1 Cor 5-7, 1 Tim 1, Romans 1, 2 Peter 2 and Jude 1, just for starters.
I think as long as we can accpet that we can agree to differ

homosexuality is perfectly natural... it occurs in nature, thats what natural MEANS...

 

[k2svpete]

*LMCO* only dolphins and humans have sex fo pleasure... did you get that from the same email that says duck's quacks don't echo and you swallow 7 spiders while asleep?

Disprove it sunshine.

I have gathered that information from science documentaries etc. You got a problem with it, take it up with the scientific community.

 

[k2svpete]

define "reason"?

Pull out a dictionary and read it yourself.