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Simon_Templar

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I believe all that the Nicene creed says and I barely know of you so I wouldn't be too quick to jump to conclusions about you and you shouldn't about me. I've been practicing in the past just lately I've been down in the dumps. Its not like I don't think I should or want to I just know I'd go to hell if it came down to tomorrow or the next day because I haven't been very spiritually involved. I've been very meh lately and there are no excuses for it. I will admit and not to place blame but every time my husband and I are meant to go to Church he makes plans for other things. Sometimes he has to help his dad. Another time he wanted to earn studio time by working for someone. A couple of times our car was broken down and then one other time someone straight ripped up the baby's car seat.

When I was just coming into Christianity right after I had gotten saved I was all about it. Filled with joy, doing the whole song and dance. Now I'm just very out of it and I don't know how to explain it. My head and heart don't agree.


Don't worry about it too much. Most people experience times like this. Christianity is a religion all about relationship, but that doesn't mean its a religion all about feelings (despite that some people seem to think so).

Consider it like a marriage. Most of the married people I know have had times where they were not excited about being married, times where they were angry at their spouse, times where they were annoyed, times where they were just tired, worn out etc. But luckily marriage is not all about feeling either. Its about commitment and love despite feeling.

It is the same with Christianity. Our relationship with God is not always about how we feel, it is about our commitment to love and serve God, no matter how we feel about it at any given moment.

I would encourage you to try and be active in worship and connected to a body even if you don't feel like it because those things are important, not as works, or keeping up appearances but simply the kind of things that any relationship needs to do in order to stay healthy.
 
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Don't worry about it too much. Most people experience times like this. Christianity is a religion all about relationship, but that doesn't mean its a religion all about feelings (despite that some people seem to think so).

Consider it like a marriage. Most of the married people I know have had times where they were not excited about being married, times where they were angry at their spouse, times where they were annoyed, times where they were just tired, worn out etc. But luckily marriage is not all about feeling either. Its about commitment and love despite feeling.

It is the same with Christianity. Our relationship with God is not always about how we feel, it is about our commitment to love and serve God, no matter how we feel about it at any given moment.

I would encourage you to try and be active in worship and connected to a body even if you don't feel like it because those things are important, not as works, or keeping up appearances but simply the kind of things that any relationship needs to do in order to stay healthy.
That's a helpful post becuz I think alot of us feel that if we aren't
"on fire" 24/7, then we're lost or backsliding - - -

I think it causes us alot of doubt and anxiety over time. And it
might even compound the feeling of failure as a Christian?
 
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That's a helpful post becuz I think alot of us feel that if we aren't
"on fire" 24/7, then we're lost or backsliding - - -

I think it causes us alot of doubt and anxiety over time. And it
might even compound the feeling of failure as a Christian?

The thing about fires is they eventually burn out, unless it's a tire fire, then it'll burn for decades! LOL Once your fire for Jesus has gone out, ya know the newness of Christianity has worn off, you're going to need something to sustain you. That's where the means of grace come in. The means of grace being the Bible and the sacraments. And attending church is so important because that is where we receive sound instruction, hopefully, in God's Word and we receive the sacraments which feed us and nourish our faith in Christ.
 
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The thing about fires is they eventually burn out, unless it's a tire fire, then it'll burn for decades! LOL

I guess I should look for Goodyear written on me
someplace?:o ^_^

Once your fire for Jesus has gone out, ya know the newness of Christianity has worn off, you're going to need something to sustain you. That's where the means of grace come in. The means of grace being the Bible and the sacraments. And attending church is so important because that is where we receive sound instruction, hopefully, in God's Word and we receive the sacraments which feed us and nourish our faith in Christ.
I think I'd be more worried if I lacked guilt or remorse for
not going to church, not reading my bible or praying
than failing to succeed in those areas every single day.

I think if you feel a love towards God, acknowledge Him
each day and continue to obey (ie. not live in willful,
chronic sin), then we might be healther than we might
think?

I think church is vital too - when I don't go, I can't take it
for very long. It's like an emptiness or void that has to be
filled up.
 
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I guess I should look for Goodyear written on me
someplace?:o ^_^


I think I'd be more worried if I lacked guilt or remorse for
not going to church, not reading my bible or praying
than failing to succeed in those areas every single day.

I think if you feel a love towards God, acknowledge Him
each day and continue to obey (ie. not live in willful,
chronic sin), then we might be healther than we might
think?

I think church is vital too - when I don't go, I can't take it
for very long. It's like an emptiness or void that has to be
filled up.

If you can't find Goodyear on you someplace, let me know and I'll run you over with my Jeep! ^_^

But how is that love towards God cultivated and nourished? It's cultivated and nourished by being in an on-going relationship with Him. According to Brikkz' own words here on this site, in my opinion she is primed to lose her salvation. Everything is in place for her to turn her back on her faith and walk away. She's not praying, so she's not talking to God, she's not reading her Bible so she's not learning what God wants for her or more about who God is, and she's not attending church so she's not receiving sound instruction in the word or receiving the sacraments. The devil has her right where he wants her. If she absolutely can not get to church for whatever reason, she can read her Bible and pray. You don't need to attend a church to do that. And there are plenty of resources available both online and in stores for her to help her stay in the faith.

She's going thru a lull right now, we've all been there, but what gets us thru that lull is our reliance upon God and His promises to us. What gets us through that lull is being in constant communication with Him and learning more and more about Him by reading our Bibles. This is not a good situation in the least, and I know this is gonna sound trite, but we should all be praying for Brikkz right now.
 
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If you can't find Goodyear on you someplace, let me know and I'll run you over with my Jeep! ^_^

But how is that love towards God cultivated and nourished? It's cultivated and nourished by being in an on-going relationship with Him. According to Brikkz' own words here on this site, in my opinion she is primed to lose her salvation. Everything is in place for her to turn her back on her faith and walk away. She's not praying, so she's not talking to God, she's not reading her Bible so she's not learning what God wants for her or more about who God is, and she's not attending church so she's not receiving sound instruction in the word or receiving the sacraments. The devil has her right where he wants her. If she absolutely can not get to church for whatever reason, she can read her Bible and pray. You don't need to attend a church to do that. And there are plenty of resources available both online and in stores for her to help her stay in the faith.

She's going thru a lull right now, we've all been there, but what gets us thru that lull is our reliance upon God and His promises to us. What gets us through that lull is being in constant communication with Him and learning more and more about Him by reading our Bibles. This is not a good situation in the least, and I know this is gonna sound trite, but we should all be praying for Brikkz right now.

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Don't worry about it too much. Most people experience times like this. Christianity is a religion all about relationship, but that doesn't mean its a religion all about feelings (despite that some people seem to think so).

Consider it like a marriage. Most of the married people I know have had times where they were not excited about being married, times where they were angry at their spouse, times where they were annoyed, times where they were just tired, worn out etc. But luckily marriage is not all about feeling either. Its about commitment and love despite feeling.

It is the same with Christianity. Our relationship with God is not always about how we feel, it is about our commitment to love and serve God, no matter how we feel about it at any given moment.

I would encourage you to try and be active in worship and connected to a body even if you don't feel like it because those things are important, not as works, or keeping up appearances but simply the kind of things that any relationship needs to do in order to stay healthy.

Thanks. :) That's actually really helpful. I am back into prayer even though its not a healthy dose. Spiritually I'm starving to death. I'm working on it though. I'm easily distracted and if I failed to take care of my husband in all the right ways and thats not just sexually but in every way well our marriage would fall apart or start to. I feel like being saved isn't just a "Get out of Hell free" card. I don't wanna say "I can sleep in late on Sundays because I am saved" So I actually feel a little remorseful that I've been bummed out lately.

That's a helpful post becuz I think alot of us feel that if we aren't
"on fire" 24/7, then we're lost or backsliding - - -

I think it causes us alot of doubt and anxiety over time. And it
might even compound the feeling of failure as a Christian?

Yep



Brikkz, I'm not jumping to any conclusions about you. I'm going on what you've plainly said. Now one of your last lines here, where you say you're saved is the reason you will not go to hell, if judgment day happened tomorrow. God can not send a saved person to Hell. You have Christ as your savior. You don't earn heaven by works like reading your Bible, going to church or praying. You are given the promise of eternal life in heaven when you are given the gift of faith in Jesus Christ as your savior. And remember, you can always go to church alone. You don't need to go with your husband. If he thinks there are other things that are more important to do on Sunday than to honor and worship God that's something he's going to answer for, not you.

Sorry I'm touchy. WE had a lot of emergencies and tragedies in this family over the last week. I am not saying my situation is unique and its not any harder than the next guy but we have had a lot so I didn't need to jump.

I had a funny dream the other day:
I fell asleep while saying a prayer. I was walking around in Heaven with kitty cat ears on because I was playing pretend. I was my own age but I was having fun like a 5 year old. I was waring kitty cat ears. Anyway I had to finish my prayer so I sat on God's lap. I couldn't see his face just his lap which he was wearing a white robe lol.

Anyway I told him the rest of my prayer and got down off of his lap and woke up.

But I was 22....not like 5. So the kitty ears was a little weird for me haha.^_^
 
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Thanks. :) That's actually really helpful. I am back into prayer even though its not a healthy dose. Spiritually I'm starving to death. I'm working on it though. I'm easily distracted and if I failed to take care of my husband in all the right ways and thats not just sexually but in every way well our marriage would fall apart or start to. I feel like being saved isn't just a "Get out of Hell free" card. I don't wanna say "I can sleep in late on Sundays because I am saved" So I actually feel a little remorseful that I've been bummed out lately.

Its good that you're getting back into prayer. Prayer and scripture reading are very important, even though I know from personal experience sometimes its like pulling teeth.

I believe that physical life is often allegorical for spiritual life. What you find in the physical is that when you eat right and exercise, you feel really good, you have lots of energy and it is totally worth it. Yet, it is very easy to slip up for a bit, and once you stop eating right, very soon you lose the desire to eat right. Even though you know you will feel better and be better if you do eat right, it still becomes very difficult to make yourself do it.
Likewise with exercising. When you first start its the hardest. You get sore, and it doesn't feel good, but if you stick with it for a bit, soon you start to feel better and you don't get sore any more etc.

Thats what spiritual life is like as well. When you are doing the right things, you feel much better and they are very enjoyable to do, you get great results. But when you stop, it very quickly becomes difficult to start again.

One of the statements of scripture that I take the most solace in is "a righteous man is he that falls seven times and seven times gets up." (paraphrased). I believe its in the proverbs if memory serves.

I want my failures to be grevious to me, lest I should begin to accept them and be comfortable with them, but we must always strive to not let guilt and condemnation drive us to hiding from God. Conviction, but not condemnation.

Here is something you might find useful for praying.

I have used it and found it to be very good for me. I always used to and still sometimes have great difficulty praying for any length of time without running out of things to say and giving up. This is a technique that helped me get around that and gave some structure to my prayers. I got the idea from the website of a man named David Torkington.

Its a memory device based off the latin words Pater Noster, which means "our Father" (the first words of the Lord's prayer). Each letter stands for a thing you do during prayer.

P = Presence, First you think about the fact that you are in the presence of God. Believers are the temple of the Holy Spirit so we always carry the presence of God with us, but we often conceal it and hide it in our spirit because we don't think about it and we don't allow it to affect us. So begin be placing yourself in that presence.

A = Adoration, as you begin to understand that you are in the presence of God, and what that means, move into adoration of God. This is like gazing lovingly and amazedly, wondering at God's awsomeness.

T = Thanksgiving. It is very important to be thankful. The reality is that there is so much that we all take for granted all the time. Life, the creation, our health, our families, every little thing in life. Take some time to just give thanks for everything you can think of.

E = Examination. Here you examine your conscience and ask God to show you if there are things in your life of which you need to repent and things you need to change. Ask God what in your life is keeping Him out, what is hindering your relationship.

R = Repentance. When you have examined your conscience and asked God to search you, as David did in the psalms, then repent of the things that you see and the things God points out.

N = Needs. Here you begin to pray for your needs and the needs of others. Remember that prayer has no limitations because God has no limitations. To him time, distance, there is nothing that is a barrier to him.
Especially focus on praying for the needs of others, and putting the needs of others ahead of your own. When you are focused on others, it helps you forget yourself for a bit.

O = Offering. Paul tells us to offer ourselves as living sacrifices to God through Christ.

S = Silence. At this point just stop talking, and still your mind. As the word says, be still and know that I am God. It can be very difficult to quiet the mind and so it will probably take practice. But the idea is simply to sit and listen and wait on God.

T = Transformation. As we wait and listen our goal is to experience more of God, to be wrapped in his presence and love. Not for the sake of feeling, or experiences, not for ourselves, but simply for God. Here the T is a reminder to pray for the transformation that God desires of us. His love in us, his life in us transforming us into the people He has always intended us to be.

E = Evalutation. Evaluate the coming day and prepare yourself to live what you have been praying in what you will encounter.

R = Resolutions. Here you resolve to do anything that God may have pointed out to you. Even if it seems like a small step, or something insignificant, resolve to do it, and to do it in love, "as unto the Lord".
 
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God has never given the believers a pass on tribulations before. Why should He start now? We will all go through the tribulations (assuming they happen in our lifetime). It would be great if there were a rapture before all the bad stuff starts, but I just don't see it in the scriptures.
 
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Its good that you're getting back into prayer. Prayer and scripture reading are very important, even though I know from personal experience sometimes its like pulling teeth.

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I read it all but I snipped it down to this. Hope that's okay. It is like pulling teeth sometimes but I am getting back into my groove if that's what you wanna call it. I am not so down and I feel up to praying again and reading. I even have a little book to tell me what to read and think about each day. :) Its helpful.
 
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