Judge Denies Release of Epstein Transcripts

[DaisyDay]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/07/23/us/trump-news#florida-epstein-transcripts-unsealed-denied

In a brief 12-page order, Judge Robin L. Rosenberg wrote that the court’s “hands are tied,” pointing to the government’s own concessions in their filing that the laws on criminal procedure generally forbid courts from unsealing grand jury testimony except in narrow circumstances.

She wrote that the Justice Department’s requests fell outside those narrow contexts, which can include sharing testimony with other Justice Department lawyers or as evidence in another related lawsuit.​

Unlawful request from the president?

 

[Clare73]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/07/23/us/trump-news#florida-epstein-transcripts-unsealed-denied

In a brief 12-page order, Judge Robin L. Rosenberg wrote that the court’s “hands are tied,” pointing to the government’s own concessions in their filing that the laws on criminal procedure generally forbid courts from unsealing grand jury testimony except in narrow circumstances.​

She wrote that the Justice Department’s requests fell outside those narrow contexts, which can include sharing testimony with other Justice Department lawyers or as evidence in another related lawsuit.​

Unlawful request from the president?

No more unlawful than any other request for unsealing of grand jury testimony.

It is not the president who is clamoring for their release.

 

[Fantine]

I keep getting the feeling that this clamoring for the release of the file is coming from very high up. I felt for a long time that the architects of project 2025, the Heritage Foundation, and the oligarchs have gotten tired of their spokesperson and want out. Since they are the ones who are pulling the strings and he pretty much acts under their suggestions, believing that it's all his own idea, they are very capable of doing whatever it takes to get him out. His behavior always erratic, impulsive, and self-motivated, has become much more so. Maybe they can do what many of us have been praying for since 2016.

 

[Bradskii]

It is not the president who is clamoring for their release.

No, he's the one trying to prevent it.

 

[Always in His Presence]

No, he's the one trying to prevent it.

The Democrats are just as silent...

 

[essentialsaltes]

The Democrats are just as silent...

They are saying 'Yea' when it matters. Some Republicans are joining them, but not enough.

House Panel Votes to Subpoena Justice Dept. for Epstein Files​

Three Republicans joined with five Democrats to support the motion.

House GOP blocks second Dem attempt to release Epstein files​

House Republicans on Tuesday voted down another Democratic procedural maneuver aimed at forcing the Justice Department to release documents related to Jeffrey Epstein.

Why it matters: It's the second time this week Democrats have forced their GOP colleagues to choose between loyalty to President Trump and a MAGA base that is furious at his administration over its handling of the Epstein files.

House ending session early as Republicans clash over Epstein vote​

 

[Say it aint so]

The Democrats are just as silent...

Less that vote they were trying to enact along with enough GOP to force a floor vote which then caused Mike Johnson to shut congress down to stop it; you would have a point.

 

[wing2000]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/07/23/us/trump-news#florida-epstein-transcripts-unsealed-denied

In a brief 12-page order, Judge Robin L. Rosenberg wrote that the court’s “hands are tied,” pointing to the government’s own concessions in their filing that the laws on criminal procedure generally forbid courts from unsealing grand jury testimony except in narrow circumstances.​

​

She wrote that the Justice Department’s requests fell outside those narrow contexts, which can include sharing testimony with other Justice Department lawyers or as evidence in another related lawsuit.​

Unlawful request from the president?

The White House knew the courts would not release the transctipts . Trump is just looking for an excuse to give his MAGA base. "See, I tried but the courts said no."

 

[NxNW]

Trump could release everything and claim immunity. Nothing is stopping him.

 

[Bradskii]

The Democrats are just as silent...

He's not silent. He is actively trying to prevent them being released. All this bulldust about grand jury files is just that. And at every single opportunity he's pointing out nice, shiny things for you to concern yourself with rather than talk about Epstein. And now..?

Trump was told by Bondi his name appeared multiple times in Epstein files: Report

According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, Pam Bondi informed President Trump in May that his name appeared multiple times in the Epstein files.

abcnews.go.com

'According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, Attorney General Pam Bondi and her deputy Todd Blanche informed President Donald Trump in May that his name appeared multiple times in the government's files on Jeffrey Epstein that the Department of Justice and the FBI reviewed.

When asked by ABC News on July 15 what Bondi told Trump about the review -- "specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the files?" Trump responded: "No, no, she's -- she's given us just a very quick briefing,"

 

[Bradskii]

And at every single opportunity he's pointing out nice, shiny things for you to concern yourself with rather than talk about Epstein. And now..?

And now it's drug prices. From here: Trump says he may use trade to force countries, pharma companies to buy into his most favored nation provision

'During the president's roughly hour-long address at the Tuesday night event, he predicted the policies of his administration could lead to as much as a 1,000% decrease in drug prices for Americans, if his plan comes to fruition'.

'We're going to get the drug prices down, not 30 or 40% which would be great. We will have reduced drug prices by 1000%, by 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 700, 600...'

The guy knows less maths than a ten year old. He literally has no idea. He was just spouting whatever number entered his head. Well, pretty much like his tariff rates come to think of it. So no real surprise there, I guess.

 

[Say it aint so]

Trump could release everything and claim immunity. Nothing is stopping him.

I would like to think, but this is Trump, I don't think he was doing the same criminal things as Epstein.
He just doesn't want the actual list out which includes multiple instances of his name

 

[public hermit]

I would like to think, but this is Trump, I don't think he was doing the same criminal things as Epstein.
He just doesn't want the actual list out which includes multiple instances of his name

That is a live possibility, but it begs the question why he cares. He could be innocent and fear the loss of support because he is implicated. He could be guilty of worse than we know, and fear the loss of support because he is implicated. Whatever the case, no one will be shocked.

 

[DaisyDay]

No more unlawful than any other request for unsealing of grand jury testimony.

What other president has called for that, unsealing of grand jury testimony?

It is not the president who is clamoring for their release.

Nobody is clamoring for the grand jury testimony; they are clamoring for the release of the client list (in whatever format) and the Epstein files.

 

[DaisyDay]

No, he's the one trying to prevent it.

No, Trump is offering the grand jury testimony in lieu of the Epstein files.

 

[DaisyDay]

The Democrats are just as silent...

It is the Democrats in Oversight Committee who spearheaded the vote to release the files, which, to their credit, enough Republicans voted to pass.

 

[Larniavc]

'We're going to get the drug prices down, not 30 or 40% which would be great. We will have reduced drug prices by 1000%, by 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 700, 600...'

I read that in the voice of a used car salesman.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I read that in the voice of a used car salesman.

Reminds me of this classic Tim and Eric bit.

 

[essentialsaltes]

No, Trump is offering the grand jury testimony in lieu of the Epstein files.

Well, he asked for it, but the judge predictably said no.

 

[NxNW]

I would like to think, but this is Trump, I don't think he was doing the same criminal things as Epstein.
He just doesn't want the actual list out which includes multiple instances of his name

I mean, Trump could claim immunity for any charges of opening the sealed Grand Jury files, by claiming it was part of the job of President. On the other hand, if his name is among the child molesters, he couldn't claim immunity for that.