Jonathan

[JohnR7]

There is somethingI do not understand. I am not sure I will find the answer here, but this seems to be the forum they talk about questions like this.

The Bible talks about how David loved Jonathan. I have heard people try and say this is the same sort of love that homosexuals have. The problem is that this word loved is used quite a bit in this book of the Bible. It is the same word used when we are told that ALL of Isreal loved David.

1 Samuel 18:16a But all Israel and Judah loved David

I saw something on Wikipedia that talks about "sexual orientation". Of course Christians would associate sexual orientation more with lust than with love. As Christians we are suppose to love one another, but that does not mean we are to lust after one another or have sex with anyone other then the person we are married to.

Perhaps it is a lost cause for me to ever figure out what they are talking about though. I do not have the sort of feelings that they seem to have, so I don't know what they are talking about.

 

[Argent]

They are trying to find justification in the Bible for gay sex, which is outside of our Father's will for His children.

I hope after I'm dead that people say "Argent" loved his Christian brothers very much. (I hope people say that now )

 

[The Nihilist]

Is the question whether or not David was gay?
Also, Argent, I'd be careful about saying what God's will is; that is probably best left to God.

 

[katautumn]

The Bible also says that it is outside of God's will for Christians to marry non-christians, women who are not "modest in appearance" and non-virgins. Should we restrict marriage in America to only modest Christian virgins?

As far as David and Jonathan are concerned, I'm not one of those people who needs to find sexual innuendo in the Bible to try and justify my opinions. It is my opinion that there is nothing inherently wrong with being gay or straight. It is the individual people that make the difference.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

I don't know. I seriously doubt it, but I don't think it matters. What does matter is that David loved Jonathan.

Do I need to start singing, "All you need is love", or have I made my point clear?

peace

 

[merseyferrier]

It says that David's love for Jonathan surpassed that of his love for women; read into that what you will. I've never seen it as obviously homosexual. I think it's a difference of cultures -- different cultures express affection for one another differently. David did not grow up in the west. Had the Bible been written in an era like today, it wouldn't have been written the way it is now.

 

[Lynden1000]

I've never understood this passage as suggesting that David was homosexual. We know that same-sex activity was heavily scorned among the Israelites, so even if David *was* homosexual, I find it unlikely that the OT authors would ever have reported, or even hinted, at such a thing.

 

[Gentle]

I don't see the problem, I love my male and female friends and neither has to do with sexuality.

peace