John Lennon

[MoNiCa4316]

He was a nut and ppl praise him way too much and give him way too much credit and I think Yoko is who ruined him, filled his head with atheism.

I think he was totally an atheist and his "Imagine" song that everyone thinks is so inspiring... it's atheist universalist tripe, IMO. But i do think it's a good song as far as songs go.

I don't like the "imagine" song either, because one of the lines says - what if there wasn't religion - and that was implied to be a good thing.

I don't know much about the Beatles or about John Lennon.... but I was just surprised to read that interview.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

This is true. I remember when that statement went public in America. The way my friends and I heard it was that lennon had said the beatles were more popular than Jesus Christ. We were shocked but we all were die hard beatle fans so we soon forgot what he had said.

Later John became an atheist which is what The song "Imagine" is all about.

"Imagine no religion...no hell below us...above us only sky." Its a beautiful melody but the lyrics are very deceptive. You cant have peace without The Prince of Peace.

I agree!

 

[MoNiCa4316]

thanks for all the replies! I guess only God knows for sure what he meant huh

 

[NoDoubt]

I don't like the "imagine" song either, because one of the lines says - what if there wasn't religion - and that was implied to be a good thing.

I don't know much about the Beatles or about John Lennon.... but I was just surprised to read that interview.

It's ok. you're young and there are many misconceptions about the Beatles thrown around. Everybdy had made mistakes No big deal.

Spring is coming. Another Beatles fav. Here comes the Son!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUhZxkr194

 

[NoDoubt]

thanks for all the replies! I guess only God knows for sure what he meant huh

I have a feeling you already judged him..

 

[MoNiCa4316]

I have a feeling you already judged him..

Actually I'm kinda leaving it up to God. I'm going to be honest...I don't like what he said there. And I dont like the 'imagine' song. BUT..I don't know what was in his heart, why he said it, and if he ever turned to God....He knows though.

I just wish that John Lennon knew the Lord, that's all...just like I wish everyone on earth knew Him.

 

[CatholicFlame]

Actually I'm kinda leaving it up to God. I'm going to be honest...I don't like what he said there. And I dont like the 'imagine' song. BUT..I don't know what was in his heart, why he said it, and if he ever turned to God....He knows though.

I just wish that John Lennon knew the Lord, that's all...just like I wish everyone on earth knew Him.

I think that the beatles were good at expressing human love. On the other hand though, they didn't understand who Jesus really was.

Love of people is only half of the story.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

I think that the beatles were good at expressing human love. On the other hand though, they didn't understand who Jesus really was.

Love of people is only half of the story.

Indeed...

 

[NoDoubt]

I think that the beatles were good at expressing human love. On the other hand though, they didn't understand who Jesus really was.

Love of people is only half of the story.

Indeed...

Uh ..I have family who knew them ..

How woud YOU know they didn't..and I have family bonds to Bono. Yeah he rings every now and then. Wow Beatles were humans .....

John and Paul DID know ....you think you know it all

 

[CatholicFlame]

Uh ..I have family who knew them ..

How woud YOU know they didn't..and I have family bonds to Bono. Yeah he rings every now and then. Wow Beatles were humans .....

John and Paul DID know ....you think you know it all

No doubt, I do really like alot of beatle songs. I REALLY do.

but yet, the songs "Imagine" and the one by George Harrison about "Hari Krisna" well they lead to to think that the beatles did not have faith in Jesus as the true Son of God.

I still think they were good people though.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

if they understood who Jesus really is, wouldn't they be strong Christians?

I'm not saying there were terrible people or anything lol..and I do like their music, from what I've heard..

 

[NoDoubt]

No doubt, I do really like alot of beatle songs. I REALLY do.

but yet, the songs "Imagine" and the one by George Harrison about "Hari Krisna" well they lead to to think that the beatles did not have faith in Jesus as the true Son of God.

I still think they were good people though.

Yes I know and I do know that he rejected his faith he is IN HELL. ( He was Catholic)

WHY???

 

[CatholicFlame]

Yes I know and I do know that he rejected his faith he is IN HELL. ( He was Catholic)

WHY???

Well yeah, we do know that he did reject his faith but then again, nobody knows if the Lord did come to him as he lay there dying. There are very many death bed conversions that I have heard of. So we really can't say with certainty that he went to hell.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

True!

 

[NoDoubt]

Maybe we should open a new thread...so far 2 Beatles in Hell...

 

[CatholicFlame]

Maybe we should open a new thread...so far 2 Beatles in Hell...

No doubt! we can't know that they are in hell for sure. We can only hope that they aren't. My grandma had a death bed conversion and even with tubes all in her and being unable to talk, she worked up enough strength to write a few lines to my mom on a piece of paper that said "Sweetie, I love God." She died a little while later.

 

[Victrixa]

Well yeah, we do know that he did reject his faith but then again, nobody knows if the Lord did come to him as he lay there dying. There are very many death bed conversions that I have heard of. So we really can't say with certainty that he went to hell.

Exactly!!!!

 

[kisstheson]

Uh ..I have family who knew them ..

How woud YOU know they didn't..and I have family bonds to Bono. Yeah he rings every now and then. Wow Beatles were humans .....

John and Paul DID know ....you think you know it all

I grew up on the Beatles, saw their first appearence on the Ed Sullivin show, thought they were the cutest guys on the planet and loved them BUT they were into drugs and what was called "free love" (sex) in my day. SP Lonely Heart's Club Band was an album heavily influenced by drugs. They had a huge influence on the youth culture both in positive and negative ways.

Did you know anything about the rumor in the late 60's and early 70's about Paul being dead?

PS don't get me wrong...I still love the Beatles...epecially early Beatles. Its too bad that only two of them are left.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

No doubt! we can't know that they are in hell for sure. We can only hope that they aren't. My grandma had a death bed conversion and even with tubes all in her and being unable to talk, she worked up enough strength to write a few lines to my mom on a piece of paper that said "Sweetie, I love God." She died a little while later.

aww!!!

praise God!

I know that He is merciful and accepts everyone who comes to Him..even if a few moments before their death.

 

[AndItWasGood]

The point is this, I want happiness. I don't want to keep on with drugs. Paul told me once, 'You made fun of me for taking drugs, but you will regret it in the end.' Explain to me what Christianity can do for me. Is it phoney? Can He love me? I want out of hell."

Me, me, me - Lennon was a true egoist...so Christianity was never right for him anyway.