John Hagee - False Prophet?

[bchris02]

I am sure everyone here is familiar with John Hagee. He has been in the end times prophecy prediction business longer than I can remember. There has recently been a lot of excitement among my fellow believers in regards to his Four Blood Moons prediction.

My question is, given the man's track record, how can people see him as anything but a false prophet? He has been proven wrong time and time again, having predicted the rapture at numerous points as well as events like Y2K and the 2012 Mayan Calendar to trigger the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

There have been numerous fringe endtimes speculators who have went as far as to set a date and purchase billboards nationwide to advertise it i.e. Harold Camping, but what makes Hagee different is the influence he has among evangelicals and the Republican Party. He sells books and lots of them and is taken very seriously among many brothers and sisters.

John Hagee also promotes dual-covenant theology i.e. Jews can still be redeemed through the old Mosaic covenant and aren't under the covenant of the cross, which per the Bible is blatant heresy.

Why do so many take him seriously? Am I right to consider him a false prophet?

 

[Jerico Miles]

What is his prediction about the four blood moons?

 

[Yekcidmij]

I am sure everyone here is familiar with John Hagee. He has been in the end times prophecy prediction business longer than I can remember. There has recently been a lot of excitement among my fellow believers in regards to his Four Blood Moons prediction.

My question is, given the man's track record, how can people see him as anything but a false prophet? He has been proven wrong time and time again, having predicted the rapture at numerous points as well as events like Y2K and the 2012 Mayan Calendar to trigger the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

There have been numerous fringe endtimes speculators who have went as far as to set a date and purchase billboards nationwide to advertise it i.e. Harold Camping, but what makes Hagee different is the influence he has among evangelicals and the Republican Party. He sells books and lots of them and is taken very seriously among many brothers and sisters.

John Hagee also promotes dual-covenant theology i.e. Jews can still be redeemed through the old Mosaic covenant and aren't under the covenant of the cross, which per the Bible is blatant heresy.

Why do so many take him seriously? Am I right to consider him a false prophet?

I don't know why anyone would take him seriously. I just consider him misguided, a failure at predictions, terrible at interpretion of the bible, and so I move along. I don't care what label people use to describe him.

He's really just a symptom of apocalyptic/end-of-the-world fascinations in America.

 

[ebedmelech]

John Hagee is a pretty much a "loose cannon"...really!

 

[Gideon]

Am I right to consider him a false prophet?

Yup, you are right. Time for Mr Hagee to become a butcher or a baker - anything, except a prophet.

 

[Old Timer]

He's very passionate.. I like that about his preaching.. but as with ANY preacher.. there's never a free pass... ALL things must be considered in light of the truth of scripture..

IMO he goes too far with Israel... and that's coming from someone who clearly sees Israel's deliverance in that coming day..

 

[rdclmn72]

Wannabe...has no business speculating on the end time or dealing with politics.

 

[Jerico Miles]

I am sure everyone here is familiar with John Hagee. He has been in the end times prophecy prediction business longer than I can remember. There has recently been a lot of excitement among my fellow believers in regards to his Four Blood Moons prediction.

My question is, given the man's track record, how can people see him as anything but a false prophet? He has been proven wrong time and time again, having predicted the rapture at numerous points as well as events like Y2K and the 2012 Mayan Calendar to trigger the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

There have been numerous fringe endtimes speculators who have went as far as to set a date and purchase billboards nationwide to advertise it i.e. Harold Camping, but what makes Hagee different is the influence he has among evangelicals and the Republican Party. He sells books and lots of them and is taken very seriously among many brothers and sisters.

John Hagee also promotes dual-covenant theology i.e. Jews can still be redeemed through the old Mosaic covenant and aren't under the covenant of the cross, which per the Bible is blatant heresy.

Why do so many take him seriously? Am I right to consider him a false prophet?

So what's the false prediction he made about the four blood moons?

 

[Gnarwhal]

I am sure everyone here is familiar with John Hagee. He has been in the end times prophecy prediction business longer than I can remember. There has recently been a lot of excitement among my fellow believers in regards to his Four Blood Moons prediction.

My question is, given the man's track record, how can people see him as anything but a false prophet? He has been proven wrong time and time again, having predicted the rapture at numerous points as well as events like Y2K and the 2012 Mayan Calendar to trigger the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

There have been numerous fringe endtimes speculators who have went as far as to set a date and purchase billboards nationwide to advertise it i.e. Harold Camping, but what makes Hagee different is the influence he has among evangelicals and the Republican Party. He sells books and lots of them and is taken very seriously among many brothers and sisters.

John Hagee also promotes dual-covenant theology i.e. Jews can still be redeemed through the old Mosaic covenant and aren't under the covenant of the cross, which per the Bible is blatant heresy.

Why do so many take him seriously? Am I right to consider him a false prophet?

I don't give Hagee any credence, he's no more qualified to talk about theology than a ballerina is qualified to talk about tax law. The man is an ignoramus, a bigot, a charlatan and an all-around abortion of a leader.

The way he drools over Israel is perverse, he rails against people for being "against Jews" but in reality he just sees them as pawns in some cosmic scheme to accelerate his warped eschatological views.

False prophet? Yeah maybe, that would mean there are true prophets out and about today that function like a psychic with a crystal ball. I don't believe there is such a role in this day and age.

 

[riverrat]

I don't give Hagee any credence, he's no more qualified to talk about theology than a ballerina is qualified to talk about tax law. The man is an ignoramus, a bigot, a charlatan and an all-around abortion of a leader.

The way he drools over Israel is perverse, he rails against people for being "against Jews" but in reality he just sees them as pawns in some cosmic scheme to accelerate his warped eschatological views.

False prophet? Yeah maybe, that would mean there are true prophets out and about today that function like a psychic with a crystal ball. I don't believe there is such a role in this day and age.

LOL, Why hold back. Tell us what you really think of him.

 

[bchris02]

So what's the false prediction he made about the four blood moons?

To be fair, the four blood moons prophecy hasn't proven false yet, but I wonder why I should put any stock in it when he has made so many prophecies over the years that have not come to pass. I am a firm believer that if one is a true prophet of God, they will be consistently correct. As soon as something they prophecy doesn't come to pass, they are a false prophet.

The way he drools over Israel is perverse, he rails against people for being "against Jews" but in reality he just sees them as pawns in some cosmic scheme to accelerate his warped eschatological views.

Most Hagee fans I know are obsessively pro-Israel, but you are right much of it is only because of their perceived role in the end times. The dangerous part is they want to guide foreign policy in a very volatile part of the world based on an interpretation of the book of Revelation that may or may not be true. If something is truly to fulfill prophecy, it will happen by the hand of God and not because men who think they know what God wants makes it happen.

 

[pdudgeon]

If something is truly to fulfill prophecy, it will happen by the hand of God and not because men who think they know what God wants makes it happen.

But in so saying the above how would we ever have prophecy in the first place with which to judge the succeeding events, if not for the warnings of the prophets whom God sent?

i.e without chickens can there be any eggs? And when those eggs hatch we will know by what animal they were laid.

It is God in His mercy who sends the prophets with their warnings time and again. Those who first know God will know and listen to His prophets. They are the ones who will heed the warnings and benefit from doing so.

 

[rockytopva]

With the rise of the word of faith movement he is more than likely a false profit!

 

[Danoh]

With the rise of the word of faith movement he is more than likely a false profit!

Aren't all Pentecostals?

I mean, one cannot be truely Dispensational [Pre-Trib/Pre-Milennial] and yet, Pentecostal [endure unto the end of the Great Tribulation, and 2nd Coming [Matt. 24; Acts 2 and 3]..

 

[Interplanner]

pdudgeon,
prophets tell you what to do. Predictors tell us what will happen. Our obligation is to know what the prophets, not predictors, said.

 

[pdudgeon]

pdudgeon,
prophets tell you what to do. Predictors tell us what will happen. Our obligation is to know what the prophets, not predictors, said.

not quite.

prophets give warnings of what is to come.
predictors tell us the possible odds of something happening based on the data that they have available to them.

all a prophet has to rely upon is God..but that is enough.

 

[rockytopva]

If I were to say that the rapture is coming 1/1/2015, and it does not get here, then I would be classified as a false prophet. So Harold Camping is a false prophet as he predicted the rapture date and it did not happen as he said.

If John Hagee predicted a future event that did not come to pass then he is a false prophet.

 

[pdudgeon]

If I were to say that the rapture is coming 1/1/2015, and it does not get here, then I would be classified as a false prophet. So Harold Camping is a false prophet as he predicted the rapture date and it did not happen as he said.

If John Hagee predicted a future event that did not come to pass then he is a false prophet.

no problem with that. I agree.

 

[Interplanner]

Also, people are false prophets who predict things that are from material that is about that historic events in the past.

 

[Interplanner]

When they make money doing it, then they are false profits.