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Joe Biden's ego on full display.

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IMHO only an ego maniac has to manipulate photos to make himself look like a giant.

There’s no photo manipulation. You just don’t understand how camera angles and perspectives work. Biden is 5” taller than Zelensky. He looks quite a bit bigger in both photos.
 
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There’s no photo manipulation. You just don’t understand how camera angles and perspectives work. Biden is 5” taller than Zelensky. He looks quite a bit bigger in both photos.
Yes there is.

The one with the Carters was already shown to the use of a ‘wide angle’ lens making them look as small as children and I showed the true height comparison in the OP.

The staged photo used a lower angle with giant Joe closest exaggerated the difference in height.

It is all about perspective.
 
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Carter is a transcendent and inspirational figure, a servant leader we should all emulate. Zelensky, 5'7", is a heroic giant among men. That is what i see.
Post #3 is an indication that it's not what biden wants you to see, thus the title of the thread.
 
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Yes there is.

The one with the Carters was already shown to the use of a ‘wide angle’ lens making them look as small as children and I showed the true height comparison in the OP.

The staged photo used a lower angle with giant Joe closest exaggerated the difference in height.

It is all about perspective.
Using a wide angle lens does not constitute manipulating the photo. In the case of the Carters, it’s not the wide angle lens that gives that effect - it’s the fact that the Carters are sitting. The perspective effects you describe only happen when the subjects are at different distances from the camera, which is not the case with the Bidens and the Carters.
 
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Post #3 is an indication that it's not what biden wants you to see, thus the title of the thread.
The photo was released by the White House press corps.

It was widely disseminated, it is EXACTLY what Joe wanted to be seen.
 
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Using a wide angle lens does not constitute manipulating the photo. In the case of the Carters, it’s not the wide angle lens that gives that effect - it’s the fact that the Carters are sitting. The perspective effects you describe only happen when the subjects are at different distances from the camera, which is not the case with the Bidens and the Carters.
Use of perspective and wide angle lenses that alter perspective is in fact manipulative.

It has been done since the early 1900’s
 
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The photo was released by the White House press corps.

It was widely disseminated, it is EXACTLY what Joe wanted to be seen.
I meant in response to someone else saying, "Carter is a transcendent and inspirational figure, a servant leader we should all emulate." Biden didn't seem to want to Carters to be seen that way, thus the pic in post #3.
 
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And the one the press released.

View attachment 325489

Looks like Joe grew about a foot.

IMHO only an ego maniac has to manipulate photos to make himself look like a giant.
The one with Zelensky wasn’t even taken by the White House photographer. It was taken by someone working for the European Pressphoto Agency.

 
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And the one the press released.

View attachment 325489

Looks like Joe grew about a foot.
No, it looks like the camera angle and the camera lens itself makes objects in the foreground look larger and make objects in the distance smaller.
Human eyes have a curved retina while a camera lens has a plain flat hemispheric sensor. There have been a lot of funny photos taken that capitolize on that. see

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Come on, hislegacy. You are working too hard to find a criticism of Biden.
 
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Come on, hislegacy. You are working too hard to find a criticism of Biden.
I’m not working half as hard as you are addressing me personally.

Thank you for the biology and photo manipulation lessons.

That is exactly what I am talking about.
 
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The answer can be found in Mr. Carter’s gigantic shoes, said Pete Souza, a former chief official White House photographer for President Barack Obama. Compared to the rest of him they look huge.​
“That to me is an indication that the foreground was distorted by a super-wide-angle lens,” he said.​
Such lenses can be helpful when a photographer is trying to shoot several people in a small room and cannot get far back enough to get everyone in the same frame with another lens. But they are notorious for distorting proportions, Mr. Souza said.​
Jaron Schneider, the editor in chief of PetaPixel, a photography and camera news website, had a similar theory.​
“It’s called perspective distortion,” he said.​
Wide-angle lenses make objects closer to the camera appear to be much larger than objects that are even just a tiny bit farther away.​
Because the Carters are leaning back, the wide-angle lens exaggerates the few inches between them and the Bidens, Mr. Schneider said. Had the Bidens and Carters been seated on exactly the same plane, this effect would not have been so striking. This is why the two men’s shoes seem to be on a similar scale.​
 
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I’m not working half as hard as you are addressing me personally.

Thank you for the biology and photo manipulation lessons.

That is exactly what I am talking about.
You are the OP, correct?

You imply ugly motivation by Pres. Biden regarding the images but there is nothing nefarious about them. One has to assume the worse.

There is no evidence of Biden's ego being involved. One had to dig deep in the muck to say it is.
 
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The one with Zelensky wasn’t even taken by the White House photographer. It was taken by someone working for the European Pressphoto Agency.


Facts get ignored when it messes up the narrative
 
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Yes there is.

The one with the Carters was already shown to the use of a ‘wide angle’ lens making them look as small as children and I showed the true height comparison in the OP.

The staged photo used a lower angle with giant Joe closest exaggerated the difference in height.

It is all about perspective.
It was the only to take the photo when the room is too small to show the four of them with the elderly Carters sitting in their chairs.

Hobbit jokes about the photo were funny, but this isn't
 
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I’m not working half as hard as you are addressing me personally.

Thank you for the biology and photo manipulation lessons.

That is exactly what I am talking about.
The photos in the OP do not look 'manipulated' per se but are simply how photos appear thanks to the flat sensor in the camera.


And Biden is taller than Zelensky, not that it matters.
 
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The photos in the OP do not look 'manipulated' per se but are simply how photos appear thanks to the flat sensor in the camera.


And Biden is taller than Zelensky, not that it matters.
Opinions vary.
 
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The answer can be found in Mr. Carter’s gigantic shoes, said Pete Souza, a former chief official White House photographer for President Barack Obama. Compared to the rest of him they look huge.​
“That to me is an indication that the foreground was distorted by a super-wide-angle lens,” he said.​
Such lenses can be helpful when a photographer is trying to shoot several people in a small room and cannot get far back enough to get everyone in the same frame with another lens. But they are notorious for distorting proportions, Mr. Souza said.​
Jaron Schneider, the editor in chief of PetaPixel, a photography and camera news website, had a similar theory.​
“It’s called perspective distortion,” he said.​
Wide-angle lenses make objects closer to the camera appear to be much larger than objects that are even just a tiny bit farther away.​
Because the Carters are leaning back, the wide-angle lens exaggerates the few inches between them and the Bidens, Mr. Schneider said. Had the Bidens and Carters been seated on exactly the same plane, this effect would not have been so striking. This is why the two men’s shoes seem to be on a similar scale.​

Interesting bit near the end of that piece:

Some asked why the Carter Center would release a distorted photo, or why it was not edited to remove the distortion.

“That would be completely forbidden,” Mr. Mills said. Official White House photographers are supposed to abide by ethical rules similar to those followed by photojournalists, he said.

I had suspected that to be the case, but wasn’t positive. Personally, I think it’s a bit silly to be allowed to frame things a certain way in camera, but not perform the same manipulation in post. But dems da rulez.

Opinions vary.

Sure, some of them are backed by facts. Others are backed by little more than spiteful cynicism.
 
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