Jimmy Carter Interceded on Behalf of Nazi SS Guard

[insaneinthebrain]

A former U.S. Justice Department official disclosed to Arutz-7 that former U.S. President Jimmy Carter’s advocacy extended beyond the PA Arabs, when he interceded on behalf of a Nazi SS man. (more)

Reading about Jimmy Carter lately leaves me speechless, and not in a good way.

 

[plum]

wow. I saw this on your blog but didn't get a chance to read it...

that's a shame. and it does seem to evidence his personal convictions concerning Jews, doesn't it....

 

[Hadassah]

I'll tell you what I told my mom.

I didn't like him to begin with, but the more I hear the more I say "NO MORE!".

I'd like one day at lunch with the man.

 

[Shimshon]

Jimmy was always seen as pro-israel wasn't he? Do you guys think this is a c=change in his convictions or was he always against Yisrael? Did he fool the world back in the 70's? Or has he changed his opinion? Anyone know the history?

 

[insaneinthebrain]

wow. I saw this on your blog but didn't get a chance to read it...

that's a shame. and it does seem to evidence his personal convictions concerning Jews, doesn't it....

This is actually something different. My blog had a link to Jimmy saying the missiles flying in from Gaza don't count as terrorism. Transcript

 

[Hadassah]

Jimmy was always seen as pro-israel wasn't he? Do you guys think this is a c=change in his convictions or was he always against Yisrael? Did he fool the world back in the 70's? Or has he changed his opinion? Anyone know the history?

Everything I've always read and studied I've said he's been against Israel and world Jewry for the most part.

My parents see it a little differently, but I think my dad's eyes are opening a little more.

Everytime I see the man, I want to just stop my ears and run in the other direction...

We should pray for him.... we should be praying for a lot of people we don't normally pray for... or think about praying for.

 

[plum]

This is actually something different. My blog had a link to Jimmy saying the missiles flying in from Gaza don't count as terrorism. Transcript

ah thanks

 

[Yovel]

During Jimmy Crater,s administration we had over a 20% inflation rate because he didn't now anything about economics. I have never cared for his politics and what he is doing now is typical if you ask me.

 

[Wags]

Jimmy Carter was never pro-Israel. He may have negoiated peace treaties but they were NOT in the best interest of Isreal. In fact they were the begining of the the "land for peace" illusion that is still destroying the country bit by bit today.

I didn't like him in the 70's - I campaigned for Ford when I was still in Jr. High and no where near old enough to vote.

 

[StormSeeker]

You can thank Jimmy for the Middle East we know today...

 

[Ivy]

I never knew all of this before.

 

[Gwenyfur]

The Baptists are in for it with him too...and Clinton...

They're keynote speakers at the next Baptist Convention in order to give them a new and better public face

truly disappointing that any denomination would feel they need clearly secular people to put a "good face" ...

Article Here

 

[Hadassah]

*tapes her hands and mouth*

 

[Gwenyfur]

Yeah...I had to nearly sit on my hands not to rant when I first read it

I tell ya...it seems the great deception is beginning...

 

[plum]

"I wish them well," said Friel, pastor of the 2,000-member First Baptist Church in Mt. Juliet. "But I think we as Southern Baptists do aid the hungry and the poor. We have special offerings throughout the year and we have never forsaken the opportunity to minister.

I'm sorry. I can't express my thoughts on this without flaming or being sarcastic. So I just wanted to... post it and let my jaw drop.

 

[Hadassah]

I really don't know what to say. I came up in the SBC and IBC's - Never ever was stuff like what those two do, tolerated... it was preached against and advised against.

Many of the missions the SBC is all about; are good missions (Lottie Moon for example)..

But since coming back to the states, it was like the SBC did an about face.

When I first became Messianic, it was SBC "documents" (something in one of their magazines) that was given to my extended family and then my parents to explain how I am now in some kind of cult that is against what baptists believe.

Irony of Ironies, there is a "Messianic" Conference with the SBC... many messianic congregations are under the SBC.

But, if we were under the SBC here, there would be absolutely *NO* interaction with the rest of our brothers and sisters within other synagogues. We've been told that by the local orthodox rabbi.
It's bad enough that one of our elders isn't allowed up to the bema and hardly allowed into the door of his old congregation (reform) for family functions (and he's a levy!! ) -due to the bad relations with that rabbi that we have.

I have a love hate relationship with the SBC to be very honest. The last several SBC congregations I have been to have been almost like going to a country club on Saturday to gossip and socialize. It was about comfort.

When I go "home" (where my mom's family lives) I don't go to church with them. I can't. I would end up saying something or walking out; and that would really ruin my standing with everyone; so I just don't go.

It's bad enough I'm not understood and I'm in "a cult" (even if the SBC now accepts and better understands us; the folks in SC have no clue) - but the bigger actions of the conference more than speak for themselves.

"Baptists are more than Southern Baptists, who are more Southern than Baptist, more exclusive than inclusive, more negative than positive, yet Southern Baptists too often define what it means to be Baptist" said Parham, a longtime critic of the Southern Baptist Convention.
"Regrettably, the word Baptist has become synonymous with an anti-everything posture. Anti-women, anti-public education, anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, anti-Disney. The perception that the Southern Baptist Convention represents all Baptists is one reason we met in Atlanta to plan a celebratory gathering that will reshape public opinion about Baptists."

Exactly.. exactly

 

[Shimshon]

but the bigger actions of the conference more than speak for themselves

I think you hit it right on the head. The actions are what produce the perseptions, and gathering together is awesome but the only way your going to 'reshape public opinion about Baptist' is by having those Baptists reshape their actions.

It always astonds me how people can think all you have to do is hold a 'celebratory gathering' and utter words about reshaping public opinion and it will happen. I like the words of Yochanan when he spoke to people like that;

Matthew 3:8 If you have really turned from your sins to God, produce fruit that will prove it!

You can speak all day long, but your actions will determine your heart.

The perception that the Southern Baptist Convention represents all Baptists is one reason we met in Atlanta to plan a celebratory gathering that will reshape public opinion about Baptists."

This statement shows me that they think they can hold a celebratory gathering and by so doing reshape the public opinion of Baptists?

I have to wonder, who thinks Southern Baptists represent all baptists? Isn't that like saying that the public perception of the RCC is that they represent all Catholics? And by holding a celebratory gathering we hope to reshape this opinion?

Wow.....I just don't follow that logic. But, that's just me I guess.

 

[Nessuno]

Jimmy Carter was never pro-Israel. He may have negoiated peace treaties but they were NOT in the best interest of Isreal. In fact they were the begining of the the "land for peace" illusion that is still destroying the country bit by bit today.

Seems like the treaties that were signed with Hitler after each time he'd take a little more territory. Signed to make the leaders look good, but not worth the paper their written on.

As for US being a true friend of Israel... heck, seems everyone seems to want to trade off and compromise the Israeli side without gaining anything on the other side. The last Israeli/Lebanon war showed how condalize went to the table and came out with nothin and just gave in. I'm not even convinced that any secretary of state ever was a true friend of Israel.
I'm from the US and writing this down isn't a pleasant thing to write.

 

[Wags]

Carter calls his Mideast book 'accurate'


Even members of his advisory board disagree....

Following the publication of the book: "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid," 14 members of an advisory board to his Carter Center resigned in protest. Those former board members and other critics contend the book is unfairly critical of Israel.

 

[Hadassah]

You should hear what the good ol' folks at Arutz Sheva had to say about it...

Funny thing though, if you disagree with some leaders, you become "radical" ...