Jesus taught us how to keep the Sabbath holy.

[k4c]

Jesus taught us that caring for others does not violate the Sabbath.

Matthew 12:10-12 And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?'' that they might accuse Him. Then He said to them, "What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.''

Jesus taught us that if your hungry on the Sabbath then get something to eat, it's not a violation. Jesus even points us to the OT to show us how certain things are allowed if there is a need.

Matthew 12:1-3 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, "Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!'' Then He said to them, "Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him:

Jesus taught us that even doing the, day to day, things of necessity are not a violation of the Sabbath.

Luke 13:14-15 But the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath; and he said to the crowd, "There are six days on which men ought to work; therefore come and be healed on them, and not on the Sabbath day.'' The Lord then answered him and said, "Hypocrite! Does not each one of you on the Sabbath loose his ox or his donkey from the stall, and lead it away to water it?

The Sabbath is a blessed day set apart by God for His people. It's not to be a burden where human and animal needs are neglected in order to ritualistically keep the Sabbath holy.

Remember, the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath.

But how could Jesus say these things and make all these people mad. Well, He's Lord even of the Sabbath.

Matthew 12:8 "For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.''

 

[Shrewsbury]

Thank you! Keeping the Sabbath seemed like such a huge burden when I started a few weeks back, but I am quickly realising that it should be anything but. Your post is so helpful.

 

[stork321]

just a quick question..

Is it ok to take exams during saturday (Sabbath)? Or attend make up class on saturday?

My 2 teachers told us this morning that we will have our exam next saturday and the other told us that we will have our make up class..It seems that theres no other schedule since my classmates already aproved it..

 

[Stryder06]

just a quick question..

Is it ok to take exams during saturday (Sabbath)? Or attend make up class on saturday?

My 2 teachers told us this morning that we will have our exam next saturday and the other told us that we will have our make up class..It seems that theres no other schedule since my classmates already aproved it..

Stork, in my opinion, according to how I understand keeping the sabbath, you should not test on the sabbath day. All secular activities ought to be put to the side so that you may be able to focus your mind on God. I would suggest that you speak to your teacher and explain your situation regarding your religious beliefs and ask for a different day to do the test. Pray about it to. Trust me the Lord will bless you in this.

 

[Aibrean]

In all that you do, do it for the Lord.

 

[k4c]

just a quick question..

Is it ok to take exams during saturday (Sabbath)? Or attend make up class on saturday?

My 2 teachers told us this morning that we will have our exam next saturday and the other told us that we will have our make up class..It seems that theres no other schedule since my classmates already aproved it..

I would say that if there is no other time the exam is offered than it's not a sin to take the exam. God knows our heart or which is where the Sabbath is first kept and then the outward follows. remember, the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I agree with both Stryder and K4C...

Do all you can, seeking first wisdom and blessing in prayer, to do the work on another day.

If it is truly not possible, and by not taking the test/makeup days will negatively impact your schooling, then, imo, it would not be offensive to God just as rescuing an animal out of a ditch...

 

[k4c]

I agree with both Stryder and K4C...

Do all you can, seeking first wisdom and blessing in prayer, to do the work on another day.

If it is truly not possible, and by not taking the test/makeup days will negatively impact your schooling, then, imo, it would not be offensive to God just as rescuing an animal out of a ditch...

A like minded faith is a sweet aroma to God and man.

 

[stork321]

Thanks! For all your encouragement and advices.. God can read my heart.. He knows that I really like to go to church..

Thanks!

 

[Kira Light]

With Sabbath keeping being so incredibly simple, is it possible some people will get into heaven by unintentionally keeping it?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

With Sabbath keeping being so incredibly simple, is it possible some people will get into heaven by unintentionally keeping it?

Not quite sure how someone would unintentionally set aside Sabbath for worship and communion with God and fellow believers.

The keeping of Sabbath is not the 'key' to gaining eternity... it is just one of the requirements God asked of us if we love Him. The reason why it seems Sabbath worship gets so much press, is because it is the one Commadment that most Christians are violating... willfully or ignorantly. If the majority of Christendom were openly committing adultry, then that would be issue at hand.

 

[Stryder06]

Not quite sure how someone would unintentionally set aside Sabbath for worship and communion with God and fellow believers.

The keeping of Sabbath is not the 'key' to gaining eternity... it is just one of the requirements God asked of us if we love Him. The reason why it seems Sabbath worship gets so much press, is because it is the one Commadment that most Christians are violating... willfully or ignorantly. If the majority of Christendom were openly committing adultry, then that would be issue at hand.

Amen to that.

 

[Cribstyl]

Not quite sure how someone would unintentionally set aside Sabbath for worship and communion with God and fellow believers.

The keeping of Sabbath is not the 'key' to gaining eternity... it is just one of the requirements God asked of us if we love Him. The reason why it seems Sabbath worship gets so much press, is because it is the one Commadment that most Christians are violating... willfully or ignorantly. If the majority of Christendom were openly committing adultry, then that would be issue at hand.

I got to admit, you do have a silver tongue...

 

[Kira Light]

Not quite sure how someone would unintentionally set aside Sabbath for worship and communion with God and fellow believers.

The keeping of Sabbath is not the 'key' to gaining eternity... it is just one of the requirements God asked of us if we love Him. The reason why it seems Sabbath worship gets so much press, is because it is the one Commadment that most Christians are violating... willfully or ignorantly. If the majority of Christendom were openly committing adultry, then that would be issue at hand.

I'm saying all other things being equal, a person just happens to live every day for God. Are they saved by pure accident? It sounds like so many things ate lawful to do in Saturday now that many people will probably manage to not break the 4th commandment without even realizing it.

 

[k4c]

I'm saying all other things being equal, a person just happens to live every day for God. Are they saved by pure accident? It sounds like so many things ate lawful to do in Saturday now that many people will probably manage to not break the 4th commandment without even realizing it.

Jesus is the end of the Law as it pertains to keeping it in order to be acceptable to God. The Law for those who have been born again is a means to express love towards God and man, it's a relationship. In relationships we don't think of things as violations, but rather, we experience them as being unfaithful, uncaring or unloving. Those who feel as though they are violating the Law might still be under the old way of thinking.

Those who are alive to God through Jesus Christ will have a love within them that is very hard to explain. When we keep the Sabbath we do it because we love God and love fellowshiping with His people on the day He blessed for such an occation. It's not like we can't do things on the Sabbath but the things we do have to be acceptable in light of our relationships.

Look at it this way. My son just turned five and his birthday is tonight. We got him his first bike for his birthday, it's going to be a huge surprize for him. I'm a detective who gets call in for a sexual assault in volving a firearm. Do you think I want to miss my son's birtday? Is it a violation when I miss his party or is it more a hurt relationship? I might be at the crime scene but my heart is at the birthday party. My son understands the importance of my job so he doesn't hold it against me. This is what the Sabbath is like when something comes up that we need to take care of. We hate it when it happens and heart would rather be with God's people on the Sabbath but God and His peolple understand things happen.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Look at it this way. My son just turned five and his birthday is tonight. We got him his first bike for his birthday, it's going to be a huge surprize for him. I'm a detective who gets call in for a sexual assault in volving a firearm. Do you think I want to miss my son's birtday? Is it a violation when I miss his party or is it more a hurt relationship? I might be at the crime scene but my heart is at the birthday party. My son understands the importance of my job so he doesn't hold it against me. This is what the Sabbath is like when something comes up that we need to take care of. We hate it when it happens and heart would rather be with God's people on the Sabbath but God and His peolple understand things happen.

We do have to be careful that we do not deceive ourselves into this reasoning on too many occasions....

Not to dog on you about your answer K4C, I understand your point... I'm just sayin' we've got to be careful.

 

[k4c]

We do have to be careful that we do not deceive ourselves into this reasoning on too many occasions....

Not to dog on you about your answer K4C, I understand your point... I'm just sayin' we've got to be careful.

I think people put more burden on the Sabbath by being fearful of violating it then Jesus did.

Here are the guidelines Jesus gave for Sabbath keeping.

Luke 6:9 Then Jesus said to them, "I will ask you one thing: Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy?"

Jesus never rebuked by limiting what people could do on the Sabbath, but rather, He rebuked people for placing restrictions on the Sabbath. The words Jesus spoke when He said, "The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath" are very powerful when understood in light of our freedom in Christ.

I think we have to be careful when labeling things evil for others and even ourselves when in fact they are not evil. I believe Sabbath keeping, under the new covenant, is between the believer and God based on love and not a list of do's and don'ts place on people by other people.

You can agree or disagree, that's okay because your relationship with Jesus is yours and your salvation is worked out by you. But I can tell you, sin, whether real or preceived, will harden the heart.

 

[Cribstyl]

We do have to be careful that we do not deceive ourselves into this reasoning on too many occasions....

Not to dog on you about your answer K4C, I understand your point... I'm just sayin' we've got to be careful.

Hey, that's my job.

Can you show me a post in this thread where K4c is not reasoning beyond what is written in the text he post? If the answer is yes....repost it so I can check it out?
The first issue I wanted to learn from this thread topic is a solid fact that Jesus taught how to keep the sabbath Holy.

K4c opening comments was to say;

Jesus taught us that caring for others does not violate the Sabbath.

Matthew 12:10-12 And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?'' that they might accuse Him. Then He said to them, "What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.''

What I understand from these text is;

Jesus using His power to heal on the sabbath, was paralleled to rescuing a sheep that fell into a ditch on the sabbath. Jesus pointed to the hypocracy of the pharisees to judge, that pulling out a sheep from a ditch as a lawful action to take, and healing a sick man is an unlawful action to take.
The conclussion is that man is more vaulable than sheep and therefore....It is lawful to handle human emergencies on the sabbath day. The most we can draw is Jesus said certain actions are permissable in the Sabbath. When you say that caring for others does not violate the sabbath, you just flooded the Medical practice with Sabbathkeepers.

Here is what the sabbath entails

Exd 20:8¶Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
(the sabbath commandment)

How to keep the sabbath holy.



Exd 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
( Plan all your work 6days, not seven, so telling people what work is permisable on sabbath contradicts the Sabbath commandment. If a human emergency comes up, we have to put value on human life.)
What/HOW
Exd 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:

(keeping from working on the seventh day is how you keep the sabbath day Holy)
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Here is an explanation of how to keep the sabbath
Jer 17:20 And say unto them, Hear ye the word of the LORD, ye kings of Judah, and all Judah, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, that enter in by these gates:
Jer 17:21 Thus saith the LORD; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring [it] in by the gates of Jerusalem;
Jer 17:22 Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers.
Jer 17:23 But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction.

 

[k4c]

Cribstyl; Hey, that's my job.

Can you show me a post in this thread where K4c is not reasoning beyond what is written in the text he post? If the answer is yes....repost it so I can check it out?
The first issue I wanted to learn from this thread topic is a solid fact that Jesus taught how to keep the sabbath Holy.

K4c opening comments was to say;

What I understand from these text is;

Jesus using His power to heal on the sabbath, was paralleled to rescuing a sheep that fell into a ditch on the sabbath. Jesus pointed to the hypocracy of the pharisees to judge, that pulling out a sheep from a ditch as a lawful action to take, and healing a sick man is an unlawful action to take.

I would rather understand it as Jesus taught it, thank you.

The conclussion is that man is more vaulable than sheep and therefore....It is lawful to handle human emergencies on the sabbath day. The most we can draw is Jesus said certain actions are permissable in the Sabbath. When you say that caring for others does not violate the sabbath, you just flooded the Medical practice with Sabbathkeepers.

Jesus didn't teach new principles in Sabbath keeping, but rather, He taught old principles that got distorted over time. We know this because of how Jesus points us back to old testament times to show us how even things in old testament times were done to care for human needs.

In all this, we still don't find Jesus doing away with the Sabbath, but rather, we find Him doing much teaching on how to keep it holy.

 

[Cribstyl]

I think people put more burden on the Sabbath by being fearful of violating it then Jesus did.

Here are the guidelines Jesus gave for Sabbath keeping.

Luke 6:9 Then Jesus said to them, "I will ask you one thing: Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy?"

Jesus never rebuked by limiting what people could do on the Sabbath, but rather, He rebuked people for placing restrictions on the Sabbath. The words Jesus spoke when He said, "The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath" are very powerful when understood in light of our freedom in Christ.

I think we have to be careful when labeling things evil for others and even ourselves when in fact they are not evil. I believe Sabbath keeping, under the new covenant, is between the believer and God based on love and not a list of do's and don'ts place on people by other people.

You can agree or disagree, that's okay because your relationship with Jesus is yours and your salvation is worked out by you. But I can tell you, sin, whether real or preceived, will harden the heart.

Does these type comment establish a doctrine that Jesus is teaching? You isolated to a part of the story with commentary that want to establish a sabbath day doctrine.


Luk 6:6 And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered.
Luk 6:7 And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him.
(They knew and heard of the miracles and that Jesus was known to heal people everyday including the sabbath. They set a trap to accuse Jesus of breaking the Sabbath law, because they did not recognize His and His authority.)

Luk 6:8 But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth. (Jesus had authority over man, Jesus also authority over sickness and desease. Sick men still come to God 7days of the week to be healed through their prayers and God does not hesitate to heal whom He will)
Luk 6:9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy [it]?
Luk 6:10 And looking round about upon them all, he said unto the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
Luk 6:11 And they were filled with madness; and communed one with another what they might do to Jesus.


Have you ever thought about the idea that Jesus did not have to keep the Sabbath to prove that He created the world in seven days, and therefore He worked everyday by preaching and healing nonstop to save men lives.