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Jesus Prayed For US!!

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After praying for the Disciples, Jesus prayed for all believers, "My Prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, THAT ALL OF THEM MAY BE ONE".

Paul helps me worship and serve God, the Apostles and the Gosples and the word of Christ showed me faith and how to believe.:thumbsup:
 

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John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

The apostles preached the gospel of the kingdom.
The apostles at that time were not preaching the good news that Christ died for my sins, was buried, and rose again for my justification. That is the good news that I believed for salvation and it is not the word that they preached.
In that particular passage Christ was not praying for us.There he was praying for his disciples and those in Israel who would believe the good news that was for them, the gospel of THEIR salvation.

BUT He DOES most certainly pray for US HIS BODY today...now...
Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.Romans 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

He is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think.

The things that belong to Israel are theirs and we are not to rob them for ourselves. Every verse in the Bible is NOT about us personally. This is where the principle of cutting a straight line, rightly dividing the word of truth the gospel of YOUR salvation comes into view.
 
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biblebeliever123 said:
John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

The apostles preached the gospel of the kingdom.
The apostles at that time were not preaching the good news that Christ died for my sins, was buried, and rose again for my justification. That is the good news that I believed for salvation and it is not the word that they preached.
In that particular passage Christ was not praying for us.There he was praying for his disciples and those in Israel who would believe the good news that was for them, the gospel of THEIR salvation.

BUT He DOES most certainly pray for US HIS BODY today...now...
Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.Romans 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

He is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think.

The things that belong to Israel are theirs and we are not to rob them for ourselves. Every verse in the Bible is NOT about us personally. This is where the principle of cutting a straight line, rightly dividing the word of truth the gospel of YOUR salvation comes into view.
No, this is where holding all scripture to be in support of the one Gospel, and dividing nothing brings truth. I believe Jesus prayed for those who "shall" believe, future tence. Since Jesus was arrested and crucified immedately following this prayer, and a few days later the Apostles were charged to, Go out unto all nations, I think Jesus was praying for more than Israel.
 
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foundinHim said:
dear timlamb:

What was Christ Jesus arrested for? And what were His last words on the cross?
Oh, are we holding bible study, are there milk and cookies after?

He was charged with blasphemy;

Matthew and Mark simply say He let out a loud cry, Luke says "into your hands I commit my spirit", John says "it is finished". I am sure the crowed was large, and depending where you were standing, you might not have heard it all.

Do I get my Gold star!!!
 
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