Jesus Never Told Us To Climb Mountains

[Optimax]

Even though the old song talks about the "mountain" that God gave to climb.

Scripture does not tell us to climb mountains to overcome the things in our life that should not be there.

Jesus said to speak to the mountain.

 

[Theofane]

Jesus Never Told Us To Climb Mountains

Maybe not literal mountains.

 

[Optimax]

The old song lyrics display the idea that most have.

That idea being that all the trials of life are God given and are to be considered hills, and/or mountains to climb.

Am Born in the heat of the desert, My mother died givin' me life;

Am Deprived of the love a Father, Blamed for the loss of his wife.

Am You know, Lord, I've been in a prison, For something that I've never done; It's been one hill after another, But I've climbed them all one by one.

But this time, Lord, You gave me a Mountain, A Mountain I may never climb; And it isn't a hill any longer, You gave me a Mountain this time.

My Woman got tired of the hardships, Tired of the grief and the strife; So tired of workin' for nothin', Tired of bein' my wife, She took my one ray of sun-shine, She took my pride and my joy; She took my reason for living, She took my small baby boy.

So this time, Lord, you gave me a Mountain, A Mountain I may never climb; And it isn't a hill any longer, You gave me a Mountain this time.

Unscriptural, unbelieving, as a lot of songs sung in church.

Jesus said to speak to the mountains in our life and if we believed and did not doubt we would have what we say.

That means the mountain would go away.

Most speak and believe the opposite without realizing what they are doing and the hills grow into mountains and the mountains remain formidable and do not go away.

 

[FoundInGrace]

I have heard interpretation of the passage of that scripture where the mountain was representive of the religious governing system of that time and when Jesus said if you speak to this mountain and tell it to be thrown into the sea it will be that it was that that He was referring to.. ie a corrupt authority.

Regardless of that, in the sense that I think you may interpreting that passage of scripture you can try and get rid of the 'mountains' in your life if you like. No one is stopping you.

My personal approach is to ask God to remove them.. if He doesnt He knows I've asked and I choose to believe His grace is sufficient to see me through.

 

[Optimax]

My personal approach is to ask God to remove them.. if He doesnt He knows I've asked and I choose to believe His grace is sufficient to see me through.

What scripture do you base that "belief" on.

Nowhere in Scripture does God tell us to ask Him to remove things in our life that should not be there.

There is scripture where we are told to do it and how to do it.

His grace is more than sufficient. His grace given unto us to remove them with is the Name of Jesus and His Word.

 

[franky67]

What scripture do you base that "belief" on.

Nowhere in Scripture does God tell us to ask Him to remove things in our life that should not be there.

There is scripture where we are told to do it and how to do it.

His grace is more than sufficient. His grace given unto us to remove them with is the Name of Jesus and His Word.

Like Paul's thorn

 

[pinkputter]

It says in Scripture "faith can move mountains"


Will there still be mountains, even with our faith? sure. So is what you are saying that we are supposed to just leave them there?

 

[Optimax]

We are not to leave them there.

we are not to think that somehow we are to climb them.

We are to have faith in God by doing what he said and speak to them.

 

[SharonL]

God gave me a poem one time which said that our mountains are built one grain of sand at a time - as well as our problems - one problem at a time making them into mountains.

 

[FoundInGrace]

What scripture do you base that "belief" on.

Nowhere in Scripture does God tell us to ask Him to remove things in our life that should not be there.

There is scripture where we are told to do it and how to do it.

His grace is more than sufficient. His grace given unto us to remove them with is the Name of Jesus and His Word.

This one...


2 Corinthians 12:8-10

Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

 

[Faulty]

Anyone have a specific instance in scripture where one of the apostles spoke to their "mountain" and moved it?

 

[JimB]

 

[Optimax]

This one...


2 Corinthians 12:8-10

Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

Read these parts of the verse and meditate on them.

Christ power........may rest IN ME.

When one depends on Christ power and not their own sufficiency then they can be strong.

That is true with us to in our own weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties.

When we understand what Christ power is and how to use like Paul did we are also strong and overcome them as paul did.

 

[Faulty]

Read these parts of the verse and meditate on them.

Christ power........may rest IN ME.

When one depends on Christ power and not their own sufficiency then they can be strong.

That is true with us to in our own weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties.

When we understand what Christ power is and how to use like Paul did we are also strong and overcome them as paul did.

ON me

 

[Optimax]

ON me

OK, on me.

 

[franky67]

Originally Posted by Optimax

What scripture do you base that "belief" on.

Nowhere in Scripture does God tell us to ask Him to remove things in our life that should not be there.

There is scripture where we are told to do it and how to do it.

His grace is more than sufficient. His grace given unto us to remove them with is the Name of Jesus and His Word.
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by found in grace
This one...


2 Corinthians 12:8-10

Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

But this is what Paul did, can you find a scripture where Jesus instructed His apostles to ask God to remove a mountain, (a problem)

 

[Optimax]

Anyone have a specific instance in scripture where one of the apostles spoke to their "mountain" and moved it?

Paul used the law of faith(faith principle) that Jesus taught. He lived by it(by faith).

In this scripture he said he did.

2 Cor 4:13
We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; KJV

 

[FoundInGrace]

I think there will be 'mountains' that we will be able to speak to and 'remove' from our lives with God's help, but there will also be mountains that we will need to climb to overcome. Both situations require faith and trust in God's faithfulness.

 

[Optimax]

I think there will be 'mountains' that we will be able to speak to and 'remove' from our lives with God's help, but there will also be mountains that we will need to climb to overcome. Both situations require faith and trust in God's faithfulness.

The difference in deciding to speak to a "mountain" or climb it is this.

We have scripture where Jesus instructed us to speak to the mountain. He also told us the procedure for speaking to it.

We have no scripture that instructs us to climb the mountain, much less a procedure for climbing it.

 

[FoundInGrace]

The difference in deciding to speak to a "mountain" or climb it is this.

We have scripture where Jesus instructed us to speak to the mountain. He also told us the procedure for speaking to it.

We have no scripture that instructs us to climb the mountain, much less a procedure for climbing it.

it still depends on how that passage of scripture is interpreted though.. as I mentioned earlier in the thread there are other interpretations out there for what Jesus may have been saying that are different from the way you are interpreting that scripture.

so if it is interpreted differently from your way of seeing it we actually dont have a scripture that instructs us to speak to the mountain.

as for procedure for climbing a mountain.. how about one step at a time