The order from Ep 1:5 requires predestination first. Prooriso puts it first before its object.
What's the evidence for your claim? Here's the verse from NASB:
Ephesians 1:4
just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love
Ephesians 1:5
He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,
In both verses, "us" is defined by Paul in 1:19-
9and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward
us who believe.
So, God chose US (believers) that we would be holy and blameless before Him, and He predestined US (believers) to adoption as sons.
1:4 forces election from the world's founding as well, before people believed (or existed).
That matters not one bit. Of course's God's plan before anything existed was to elect believers and predestine believers to adoption as sons.
Adoption is afterward, but becoming born of God is not afterward (john 1:13).
This needs lots of explanation. Relative to what, specifically?
And, 1 John 5:1 again, new birth is completed for everyone who believes Jesus is the Christ.
Sure. I've agreed with that. And Greek grammar rules SAYS that present participles occur at the same time as the ACTION of the main verb.
#1 present participle = believing ones
#2 main verb = has been born again
#3 present participle (when the believing ones believed) occurs at the
SAME TIME as the ACTION (when God actually Regenerates the believer) of the main verb.
That is boiled down as far as it can go.