Jesus Light :)

[Mayflower1]

My philosophy is this:

God is light, and in Him, there is no darkness at all. He loves everyone unconditionally, and if we only open up our minds and hearts to believe in Him and what He did, we will have eternal life.

I'm not much of a debater. But I believe in the Bible as the infallible Word of God. And His Word is my philosophy, that I will love for He is love. I will walk in the light, because He is the Light.

My purpose on this earth is to help people and to love and serve God.

and I love ya'll.

I don't come here usually, because I am not a debater, but you can't debate me that I love ya'll. cause I love everyone.

 

[The Nihilist]

That's not a philosophy, that's an assertion. Oh, and there are also some metaphors that don't make a lot of sense.

 

[Bushido216]

Go easy... she's not a philosopher.

 

[Hentenza]

If you define philosophy as a system of values then her "assertions" are her philosophy.

 

[The Nihilist]

Go easy... she's not a philosopher.

It's easy to take what I said at it's face, but it's really just my opening move in a debate that she does in fact love us all. If it's not clear, my strategy is to prove that by generally being a douche. (Can I say douche here?)



Hentenza, the love of wisdom is not and has never been about assertions.

 

[Mayflower1]

let me see... I found this definition of philosophy: "Love and pursuit of wisdom by intellectual means and moral self-discipline."

well, I love to pursue wisdom about Jesus? Does that count?


"But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him." James 1:5

(I am asking for wisdom on what an assertion is, a philosophy is, and I think a metaphor doesn't use "like" or "as" right?)

would a philosophy be like saying, "all wisdom comes from God?"

 

[Hentenza]

Hentenza, the love of wisdom is not and has never been about assertions.

I don't disagree, however, a philosophy of life does include positive declarations.

 

[Mayflower1]

yes, this is how I can prove my philosophical assertion that I do in fact love everyone.

Point One:

If I am to be obedient to God, I must follow His two greatest commands which are:

"And He said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."


as you see, I must love ya'll, because I must obey God and this is His second greatest commandment.

"

 

[Mayflower1]

Point 2:

"I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made..." Psalm 139:14

"Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." Genesis 2:7

what is there not to love? am I not to love the very creation of God, no matter the religion, race, color?

everyone has unique personalities. what is there not to love about that? even those who I have a hard time with, it doesn't mean I don't love them. if that was the case, I wouldn't pray for them.


I'll pause here for ya'll to reflect and respond.

 

[Bushido216]

If you define philosophy as a system of values then her "assertions" are her philosophy.

You know what I mean.

 

[andreha]

That sounds like a perfectly sound philosophy to me.

You know - that title "Jesus Light" reminds me of something that happened to me a long time ago. As a young boy, I was going through a rather harsh time. So, one day, someone told me about Jesus. It was as if a light bulb went on in my head. I thought "Wait a minute. I'll ask Him for help, He'll understand." So, that night, after the usual demonic attacks, I asked Him to help me, and the next moment, I felt waves of joy coarsing through me, and I left my body. I stood in a dark place, and saw Christ, in all His shining glory. The light shining out of Him was so pure and white - one could stare into it without blinking. I felt the most awesome love and peace. A while later, I felt a powerful tug, pulling me away, at tremendous speed. A few moments later, I was back in my room. There was a sound, lke trumpets, that faded away slowly. Then I heard a voice that said "Rest my child, it's over." Well, I was never the same again. My life turned around, and those horrible attacks ceased abruptly.

Jesus lives, I know that for sure.

My philosophy is this:

God is light, and in Him, there is no darkness at all. He loves everyone unconditionally, and if we only open up our minds and hearts to believe in Him and what He did, we will have eternal life.

I'm not much of a debater. But I believe in the Bible as the infallible Word of God. And His Word is my philosophy, that I will love for He is love. I will walk in the light, because He is the Light.

My purpose on this earth is to help people and to love and serve God.

and I love ya'll.

I don't come here usually, because I am not a debater, but you can't debate me that I love ya'll. cause I love everyone.

 

[Mayflower1]

wow!!!!!

so how about this as a philosophy. "God loves everyone." would that be philosophical if I said that there is a great, omnipotent, omniscient, self-sufficient, self-existent God who loves every single person unconditionally?

 

[Infernalfist]

it could be considered a philosophy, but there isn't much to back it up. just an outdated text and personal experiences with no evidence other than "i saw it". me personally my faith through christianity was a bird around my neck. once i removed my christian faith and started thinking and feeling for myself, rather than trying to do it through something that i couldn't justify as existing, i found myself happier than i have ever been my entire life. to this day i find myself stronger and happier because i don't ask someone else to give me happiness or strength, i find it myself.
I can do all things through me who gives me strength.

 

[Mayflower1]

I don't think we have the strength in ourselves to really make it in this world. Yes, we can possibly get through the rough times, have a great job, and a family, even feel happy and at peace. But there is a God-shaped void inside all of us that needs His strength, His love, and His light... I always have to ask the question for one who did know Christ and decide not, "What in your life has happened to cause you to want to disown Him?" why? because there is not a love deeper then His. The evidence is yes. For one, experience. Without Christ, I would be dead. I would have never been able to forgive my dad, I would have just been lost in this world. You can "see" someone, without them being there. You can talk on the phone with someone. Prayer is my communication. You have read biographies. The Bible is more then a biography. It is God (John 1:1). Second, imagine how complex a tiny cell in the human body is. or how complex the universe is. look outside at the grass, trees, water, earth, and say it was an accident. or it happened by a big bang. or it all came from nothing... have you seen any miracles happen? things you can't explain? to me, those come from God. Third, only Jesus can truly justify.

 

[quatona]

I don't come here usually, because I am not a debater, but you can't debate me that I love ya'll. cause I love everyone.

Sure I could.
E.g. I could point out that you did not even know me when you made the statement that you love me.
I could also point out that "all-loving" is one of the very traits that is ascribed to god exclusively.
But I won´t.

 

[Infernalfist]

I don't think we have the strength in ourselves to really make it in this world. Yes, we can possibly get through the rough times, have a great job, and a family, even feel happy and at peace.

you don't think that anyone could have that kind of strength solely based on the fact that you haven't found it? i hardly call that a justified statement.

But there is a God-shaped void inside all of us that needs His strength, His love, and His light...

I agree that there is a void in most, but i think that it isn't so much a god shaped void, but part of us devoid of love. when people of faith fill it with love they give all credit to god.

I always have to ask the question for one who did know Christ and decide not, "What in your life has happened to cause you to want to disown Him?" why? because there is not a love deeper then His.

i did not "disown god" i realized that i(like many others) was simply going off of an explanation of the "god phenomenon" made by people who have a far inferior view of life than we do now.

The evidence is yes. For one, experience. Without Christ, I would be dead. I would have never been able to forgive my dad, I would have just been lost in this world. You can "see" someone, without them being there. You can talk on the phone with someone. Prayer is my communication.

I recently spent much time in self reflection, tearing down all of my foundations and keeping only the ideas that held up. i found that all of my "evidence" gave no credibility to the god that i believed in, but it gave testiment to the fact that i felt there was something unexplainable guiding me. I still feel this guidance, but i can't say that a primitive, violent, and tribal group of people could have even scratched the surface on what it may be.

You have read biographies. The Bible is more then a biography. It is God (John 1:1).

the bible was written by men, so at the most it can be only considered an autobiography. given the nature of how much people actually didn't know about the world when the bible was written, i personally would argue that it is as much an autobiography as supermarket tabloids.

Second, imagine how complex a tiny cell in the human body is. or how complex the universe is. look outside at the grass, trees, water, earth, and say it was an accident. or it happened by a big bang. or it all came from nothing... have you seen any miracles happen? things you can't explain? to me, those come from God. Third, only Jesus can truly justify.

To be perfectly honest, i doubt we will ever know how the universe began, but i refuse to take the explanation of the creation of the universe made by people who had no idea the complexity of a cell, or how a blade of grass is formed, or even what exists beyond our solar system.

 

[Mayflower1]

Sure I could.
E.g. I could point out that you did not even know me when you made the statement that you love me.
I could also point out that "all-loving" is one of the very traits that is ascribed to god exclusively.
But I won´t.

yes, it is true I never knew you, but I was praying for you. I never met my grandfather, but that doesn't mean I don't love him. I love you, have loved you, and will always love you without even knowing you.


now that second point is a very good one. you got me there. "all-loving" is a trait that is ascribed to God exclusively, but with His help, I can love like Him. "A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master..." Matthew 10:24,25 So I can be like God, the Bible even says man was made in His likeness, so why not can't I love like Him? To say I don't fall in this area of course would be a lie, I have not always forgiven completely (the first time took me years), and I have not always understood every single person I've read about or met. But one thing I can say that I strive to. "I love everyone" isn't too general, because like forgiveness, love is a choice. I can choose to love people for what they have done or how they are, or choose to hate people and condemn them. But Jesus never condemned me, so I don't think it would be fair for myself to condemn.

 

[Mayflower1]

you don't think that anyone could have that kind of strength solely based on the fact that you haven't found it? i hardly call that a justified statement.

no, I don't think anyone can know how strong they really are, until they have matched their strength with God's strength. Compared to the strength God can offer, our strength is very minimal if anything. *Shara sings* on Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand!

I agree that there is a void in most, but i think that it isn't so much a god shaped void, but part of us devoid of love. when people of faith fill it with love they give all credit to god.

1 John 4:8 says that God is love. He is the only one who can love us enough to fill that void completely.

i did not "disown god" i realized that i(like many others) was simply going off of an explanation of the "god phenomenon" made by people who have a far inferior view of life than we do now.

I am not sure what you mean here, but I love you.

I recently spent much time in self reflection, tearing down all of my foundations and keeping only the ideas that held up. i found that all of my "evidence" gave no credibility to the god that i believed in, but it gave testiment to the fact that i felt there was something unexplainable guiding me. I still feel this guidance, but i can't say that a primitive, violent, and tribal group of people could have even scratched the surface on what it may be.

I agree, that we as people are primitive, violent, and tribal, just as the Israelites in Moses day, but God has always been the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night. yes sir, people can tell you things over and over, but only God can reveal to You.

the bible was written by men, so at the most it can be only considered an autobiography. given the nature of how much people actually didn't know about the world when the bible was written, i personally would argue that it is as much an autobiography as supermarket tabloids.

I believe the Bible as the infallible Word of God. "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3:16,17

To be perfectly honest, i doubt we will ever know how the universe began, but i refuse to take the explanation of the creation of the universe made by people who had no idea the complexity of a cell, or how a blade of grass is formed, or even what exists beyond our solar system.

which really is no one... no one really knows these things, just what is read in a book or researched. but to the creator who made the cell, and the grass, and what exists beyond the solar system, is omniscient.

 

[Infernalfist]

i have to apologize if this seems a bit chopped up, but i have no idea of how you quoted me, and it won't let me highlight the individual points.
*i believe that you are still under the assumption that you aren't strong enough to overcome your own struggles. why stand on the rock, when you yourself can be the rock.
*you do understand the folly in quoting the bible to someone who doesn't believe in it don't you? it would be like me constantly quoting the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy the make points against religious arguments.
*i meant exactly what i typed. i didn't think it was too complicated. if you wish for me to be more specific send me a private message.
*even though that there may be a guiding force, our interpretations of it will constantly be far inferior to the actual truth.
*again i will elaborate on the folly of quoting the bible to someone who doesn't believe in it. also a book that feels the need to give credibility to itself doesn't seem to be a very credible book.
*maybe so, but our interpretations of said creator are not omniscient. if a scientist were to explain to you the nature of quantum physics and how it applies to modern science, and then asked you to spread it to everyone you know you would be a bit lost as would i, because we do not have the understanding of quantum physics that said scientist would have. how can you expect a primitive group of people, or even us now to have a complete understanding of a/the creator.

 

[Mayflower1]

i have to apologize if this seems a bit chopped up, but i have no idea of how you quoted me, and it won't let me highlight the individual points.
*i believe that you are still under the assumption that you aren't strong enough to overcome your own struggles. why stand on the rock, when you yourself can be the rock.
*you do understand the folly in quoting the bible to someone who doesn't believe in it don't you? it would be like me constantly quoting the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy the make points against religious arguments.
*i meant exactly what i typed. i didn't think it was too complicated. if you wish for me to be more specific send me a private message.
*even though that there may be a guiding force, our interpretations of it will constantly be far inferior to the actual truth.
*again i will elaborate on the folly of quoting the bible to someone who doesn't believe in it. also a book that feels the need to give credibility to itself doesn't seem to be a very credible book.
*maybe so, but our interpretations of said creator are not omniscient. if a scientist were to explain to you the nature of quantum physics and how it applies to modern science, and then asked you to spread it to everyone you know you would be a bit lost as would i, because we do not have the understanding of quantum physics that said scientist would have. how can you expect a primitive group of people, or even us now to have a complete understanding of a/the creator.

well, I am a rock. I am just a small pebble though that fits inside the little crevice on top of the boulder, which is God. My Mom always told me that I am more stubborn then the rock of gibralter. it sure is hard to debate when we are from two different worlds. this has been a great philomosophical discussion. but if I can't use the Word of God as my defense, then I have no defense. so all I can say is I love you all.