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Well I did not read it that way. Why don't we wait for what TLF has to say?
she's already said it... a person has to be careful becuase there is a condemn New Age movement that tries to pass God off as a women who has breasts and i saw a red flag calling Jesus "my mother..."
Mary is our Mother... Jesus is our brother and God is our Father and the Holy Spirit is our helper.
i do not know what is so hard to accept but God is a family, Father Son and Holy Spirit and Mary is the mother that completes the family. No, she is not part of the Trinity but she is the mother that God provided us.
Why doesn't anyone want her? For real, why?
Well I did not read it that way. Why don't we wait for what TLF has to say?
I don't think that ktf's posts smacks of new age, that her relying on Jesus over the loss of her mother in anyway is error.
Do you ppl ever read? I said I was worried over the other poster that was New Age... but KTS needs to edit the op IMO becuase "Jesus, my mother..." is a red flag.
I'm happy KTS found Jesus and he gives her what she needs... no one is asking her to give that up but Jesus is not our mother, Mary is. New Age wants to teach us he is.
She does not need to edit her OP. There is no red flag, no Communist behind every bush...
Do you ppl ever read? I said I was worried over the other poster that was New Age... but KTS needs to edit the op IMO becuase "Jesus, my mother..." is a red flag.
I'm happy KTS found Jesus and he gives her what she needs... no one is asking her to give that up but Jesus is not our mother, Mary is. New Age wants to teach us he is.
"Jesus my mother..." is a red flag, it smacks of New Ageism.. again, something good Catholics, in good standing, do not want to be associated with.
Let's wait, please.
For what...? TLF has been clear that it's not that Jesus doesn't give us the love of a mother... He is perfect love, the love God gives encompasses every bit of love there is... for he is love itself, so of course a mothers love will be in there but it's saying, Jesus my heavenly mother or heavenly Jesus my mother.. what ever it was that was said, it's New Age and a huge problem.
and then that other poster... God is breasted... smacks of New Age, it ain't a road we can go down.
Maybe you could have interpreted it wrong. Maybe I am. I'd prefer to wait for what the OP has to say.
Maybe you could have interpreted it wrong. Maybe I am. I'd prefer to wait for what the OP has to say.
Some of you may not know that when I was a little baby I lost my mom most likely due to suicide. Having three children under the age of five and a son who only lived twenty four hours, she had post pardum depression and was found floating dead in the creek outside my garndmother's house at the age of twenty seven. I was told when I was a child that it was most likely suicide and not an accidental slip that cuased her death. Over the years my aunts have argued as to whether or not her death was a suicide but in any case I didn't have a mom growing up. My dad was an absentee father. he worked on the tugs in NYC and when he was home he would drink a lot.
I share this so you will understand how I came to discover a very important aspect about Christ. When I decided that I wanted to know the Lord in a more personal way one of the things I began to experience is the "mothering" of Christ. I had always denied the imporatnce of having a mother. I concluded I didn't miss what I never had. I didn't understand the importance of bonding, touch and affection that a mother gives to her child. But before I go on I would like to point out scripturally that Christ does have motherly attributes.
Jesus our Mother.
Here's a few scriptures to think about. (Sorry I can't give you the exact verses, just the whereabouts.)
1.) From Jeremiah "Can a woman forget her nursing child or fail to have compassion upon it? She may forget but no will I not. Israel you are always before Me."
In Isaiah: 'Your mother and father may forsake you but I will not."
Jesus in the Gospels "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, how often have I longed to gather you as a mother hen gathers her chicks under her wings."
From these few scrptures we see that Christ loves us with a love likened to a father and a mother. A father's love is strong and protecting. The same can be said of a mother's love but even more so a mother has nourishing qualties. This is what I want to address: how Jesus loves us like a mother and why it is important in relation to our Vine-Life with Jesus.
Perhaps this will be a new vision for some, seeing Jesus as our mother. I think we will be greatly encouraged as we meditate on how Jesus keeps us and how close we actually are to Him.
Now let's watch how this beautiful truth unfolds. Didn't He know you and I before we were ever born? Even in Genesis when Adam and Eve had fallen the plan of salvation was already set in motion. We know from Psalms that David said all our days have been alotted to us and that we were fearfully and wonderfully made. God had knit us together in our mother's womb.
Imagine a good mother-to-be being told she was pregnant. What joy she has in knowing that soon she will bear a child! What a precious secret between her and her unborn child in that she alone knows what it feels like to carry that child, to know the movements and growth of the little one, and the child knows the mother more than anyone else. Not even her husband can experience this deep bond between mother and child. The child utterly depends on the mother for everything.
So how does this tie into Jesus? How can we find Jesus in this picture? I'll talk more about it tomorrow. In the mean time let's rejoice that we His!
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Continuing...
A long time ago, even in eternity past you and I were in the heart of the Trinity. This heart was like a womb for in order for something to be birthed there needs to be a womb. The full expression of this womb within God was found in Jesus.
The coming of Christ at Christmas was not only the beginning of His human life here on earth but it was also the coming of us in Him. For all of His life Jesus carried us within Himself. The days He experienced hardship, thirst, the heat of the desert, the cold winter rains, sweat and toil, times of rejection, sadness ~ these were all labor pains. Jesus wouldn't have traded these pains for anything for He dearly loved what He carried in His heart-womb, You and I. We were so special and precious to Him. He, Abba and Spirit delighted in the glorious secret growth of God's holy intention.
Jesus was the one Vine, the shoot of Jesse planted in the barren earth. He had yet many branches within, unseen to all the world. Jesus had great joy in His hidden knowledge and He longed for the day when that which was hidden would be revealed.
"I have a baptism to undergo. How I am longing for it to be accomplished."
"With great desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer."
So often people who did not understand who Jesus was and His hidden mystery tried to kill Him but that was before His time. Only a mother truly knows when it is time. Our mother Jesus knew when the time had come for us to be delivered.
"A woman when her times has come is sad because she knows she is about to deliver a child into the world. But once she has delivered her child her sadness turns into joy." Jesus said these words at the last supper, the night before His death. He announced His time had come.
He had carried us through eternity past, and into His incarnation, throughout all the days of His boyhood, even unto His manhood and now in the prime of His life the labor pains intensified. Throughout His Passion how terrible the oain.
The beatings
The lashing
The crowning of thorns
The mocking
The spitting
The carrying of the cross
The crucifixion
All during His contractions Jesus never lost focus of you and I. He knew and loved us as any good mother would love her child in the womb. He knew we would have days of great joy, days when we would experience a wonderful closeness with Him, days when we would be obedient, when we would learn and grow, but He also knew there would be days we would stumble and fall, days when we would disobey and throw temper tantrums wanting our own way. He even knew their would be days when we would distance ourselves from our good mother. Yet this knowledge did not in the least cause Jesus to say even for a second, "No the pain of their disobedience will be too much. If I can't have them absolutely perfect I will not go through with this birth."
No good mother would ever think such a thing, neither did Jesus.
One thing our heavenly mother Christ had which earthly mothers lack was the full knowledge of how we would look when we were all "grown up." Jesus saw our perfected state as well but He knew we could not be perfected unless we remained in Him. So our birth would have to be different than natural birth. We would have to remain intimately united to Him and utterly dependant on Him. How could this happen? What miracle would bring about this wonderous expression of His heart?
We will find out as we continue our meditation.
Jesus is my stretcher!
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