Jesus Feeding the 5000 and Creating Complex Objects With Apparent-Embedded Age

[Heissonear]

These posts are so pointless. This is like the half dozenth of these types of posts in the past few days. The third or fourth just from Hession. Isn't there an apolagetics forum or something the likes of which Hession, dad and others could happily post their views on this or that scripture without cluttering up what is supposed to be a debate forum for creationism and the Theory of Evolution where evidence for and against can be presented and discussed?

This is why I frequently go on hiatus and don't comment much. It's probably a lot of the reason quality contributor regulars like Loudmouth don't post here anymore. It's just a lot of, quite frankly, nonsense with no real content relevant to the forum. I mean how do these OPs expect people to respond? You don't think people who disagree with your pet theory of scriptural interpretation have the holy spirit? Well, um, ok??? Who cares? Got some evidence in support of creation to present? Post that. Let's see it. Let's discuss that.

From the OP:

The Bible has Scriptures that make obvious one of God's Ways of Creating is to Create complex objects with Apparent-Embedded Age.


The feeding of 5000 by Jesus as listed in the Gospels was specific to display this type of Creating.

It is clear the disciples had only 5 loaves of bread and two fish initially available to feed the 5000.

Jesus then Created loaves of bread and cooked fish, and the 5000 ate till they were all full.

The majority of bread and fish handed out to the 5000 were Created with Apperarent Age.

All of the loaves and fish appeared similar, they were cooked and appeared to be naturally produced - like if they had all went through the natural processes as the original 5 loaves and two fish.

This event occurred to show how mortals cannot tell the difference of Naturally Produced Objects from Objects just Created which showed Apparent Natural Age.

How God's Ways of Creating can be with Naturally-Mature Looking Apparent Age.

 

[Heissonear]

Many have by-passed the Bible and God in pursuit of Reality about the Earth's origin and history.

In doing so many have exalted science as the foremost method and evidence to conclude the origin and history of the Solar System and Earth.

The Bible presents evidence (events) where things that look natural processes made only look so. They were Created not long ago and are in Reality are very young in Actual Age.

Again, the Bible should not be set aside in knowing Earth's past. It is an enormous mistake.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

From the OP:

The Bible has Scriptures that make obvious one of God's Ways of Creating is to Create complex objects with Apparent-Embedded Age.


The feeding of 5000 by Jesus as listed in the Gospels was specific to display this type of Creating.

It is clear the disciples had only 5 loaves of bread and two fish initially available to feed the 5000.

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Jesus then Created loaves of bread and cooked fish, and the 5000 ate till they were all full.

The majority of bread and fish handed out to the 5000 were Created with Apperarent Age.

All of the loaves and fish appeared similar, they were cooked and appeared to be naturally produced - like if they had all went through the natural processes as the original 5 loaves and two fish.

This event occurred to show how mortals cannot tell the difference of Naturally Produced Objects from Objects just Created which showed Apparent Natural Age.

How God's Ways of Creating can be with Naturally-Mature Looking Apparent Age.

And this is different to last-Thursdayism because.......?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Many have by-passed the Bible and God in pursuit of Reality about the Earth's origin and history.

-_- if the bible is correct about the planet's origin and history, then methods of finding out those things that are independent of the bible should inevitably have conclusions that match it.

In doing so many have exalted science as the foremost method and evidence to conclude the origin and history of the Solar System and Earth.

How many planets do you believe in? The OT only mentions 3, and I don't think the NT specifies any other than Earth. To help show itself to be beyond its time, the bible needed only to mention more than 5 aside from Earth.

The Bible presents evidence (events) where things that look natural processes made only look so. They were Created not long ago and are in Reality are very young in Actual Age.

When you claim that youth appears no different from old age, you yourself are admitting that there is no observational evidence that the Earth is young. Only that it definitely looks old, but the bible disagrees.
It is an admission that you view the bible as the only source of relevant evidence... but you have yet to justify doing that.

 

[joshua 1 9]

We see this miracle in 2Kings4 with Elijah the widow and the oil.

 

[bhsmte]

These posts are so pointless. This is like the half dozenth of these types of posts in the past few days. The third or fourth just from Hession. Isn't there an apolagetics forum or something the likes of which Hession, dad and others could happily post their views on this or that scripture without cluttering up what is supposed to be a debate forum for creationism and the Theory of Evolution where evidence for and against can be presented and discussed?

This is why I frequently go on hiatus and don't comment much. It's probably a lot of the reason quality contributor regulars like Loudmouth don't post here anymore. It's just a lot of, quite frankly, nonsense with no real content relevant to the forum. I mean how do these OPs expect people to respond? You don't think people who disagree with your pet theory of scriptural interpretation have the holy spirit? Well, um, ok??? Who cares? Got some evidence in support of creation to present? Post that. Let's see it. Let's discuss that.

Yep.

Preaching in a science forum, shows a lot of desperation.

 

[ViaCrucis]

From the OP:

The Bible has Scriptures that make obvious one of God's Ways of Creating is to Create complex objects with Apparent-Embedded Age.


The feeding of 5000 by Jesus as listed in the Gospels was specific to display this type of Creating.

Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument better.

The Gospels don't tell us that Christ gave the fish and bread "apparent-embedded age". It simply says that with a small number of fish and loaves a great many people were fed until full. How did that happen? The texts don't tell us.

You making something up and inserting it into the text does not give you a good argument. Just the opposite in fact. Further, this isn't a science argument, this is a biblical analysis argument; and your biblical analysis is wrong.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

From the OP:

The Bible has Scriptures that make obvious one of God's Ways of Creating is to Create complex objects with Apparent-Embedded Age.


The feeding of 5000 by Jesus as listed in the Gospels was specific to display this type of Creating.

It is clear the disciples had only 5 loaves of bread and two fish initially available to feed the 5000.

Jesus then Created loaves of bread and cooked fish, and the 5000 ate till they were all full.

The majority of bread and fish handed out to the 5000 were Created with Apperarent Age.

All of the loaves and fish appeared similar, they were cooked and appeared to be naturally produced - like if they had all went through the natural processes as the original 5 loaves and two fish.

This event occurred to show how mortals cannot tell the difference of Naturally Produced Objects from Objects just Created which showed Apparent Natural Age.

How God's Ways of Creating can be with Naturally-Mature Looking Apparent Age.

...but... I don't care what your holy book says.

The fifty-second edition of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them says that dragons are found all over the world and enumerates them in great detail, but until you present me with physical evidence that such creatures exist you've got nothing.

What evidence of special miraculous/super-natural/deity-centric creation do you have to present? I don't care what you think this or that scripture is talking about. Present evidence and let us examine it.

And, No. Your scriptures are not evidence of anything other than what people of the time they were written believed or imagined. They are the claim.

 

[Colter]

The Bible has Scriptures that make obvious that one of God's Ways is to Create complex objects with Apparent-Embedded Age.

Objects that have the Appearance of going through natural processes over time to look and exhibit the intrinsic characteristics they display.

This is an Attribute and Ability that the Creator has displayed before many.

Another account in the Scriptures is when Jesus feed the 5000. God's purpose was obvious. A clear display of Creating Natural Objects With Apparent-Embedded Age.

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The people who ate the bread and fish Created with Apparent-Embedded Age could not know the difference. They appeared to be made by natural process.

"And this is the first and only nature miracle which Jesus performed as a result of his conscious preplanning. It is true that his disciples were disposed to call many things miracles which were not, but this was a genuine supernatural ministration. In this case, so we were taught, Michael multiplied food elements as he always does except for the elimination of the time factor and the visible life channel." UB 1955


Jesus multiplied the food elements that already existed.

 

[DogmaHunter]

The Bible has Scriptures that make obvious that one of God's Ways is to Create complex objects with Apparent-Embedded Age.

I just met the "Ghost That Never Lies" and he told me that we were all created Last Thursday with "apparant-embedded age", which is why we have memories of having lived our entire lives.

So, there!

You're wrong, and the Ghost That Never Lies is obviously correct.
Prove him wrong, if you disagree!!

 

[TLK Valentine]

From the OP:

The Bible has Scriptures that make obvious one of God's Ways of Creating is to Create complex objects with Apparent-Embedded Age.

Were you there?

 

[Heissonear]

Yep.

Preaching in a science forum, shows a lot of desperation.

Not looking for truth anymore - putting people in a peg board?

Seems many former church goers have sized up other from their own errant steps in seeking truth, past and present.

Jesus presents clearly how He used Apparent Age when feeding the multitude. Easy to see. Easy to learn. The faithless see no applicability. That is an errant step in being lead to truth.

 

[Heissonear]

I just met the "Ghost That Never Lies" and he told me that we were all created Last Thursday with "apparant-embedded age", which is why we have memories of having lived our entire lives.

So, there!

You're wrong, and the Ghost That Never Lies is obviously correct.
Prove him wrong, if you disagree!!

Debater? Or looking for truth?

God clearly shows in the Bible He uses Apparent Age when Creating things.

It does not matter who rejects this. It still is a reality.

 

[bhsmte]

Not looking for truth anymore - putting people in a peg board?

Seems many former church goers have sized up other from their own errant steps in seeking truth, past and present.

Jesus presents clearly how He used Apparent Age when feeding the multitude. Easy to see. Easy to learn. The faithless see no applicability. That is an errant step in being lead to truth.

Truth can be demonstrated.

If all you have is preaching, good luck.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Debater? Or looking for truth?

God clearly shows in the Bible He uses Apparent Age when Creating things.

It does not matter who rejects this. It still is a reality.

The Ghost That Never Lies, revealed otherwise to me.
Didn't you read the post you are responding to?